We don’t necessarily see it on a day-to-day basis, but the value of the dollar is a variable thing.
Once upon a time, that value was based on gold, then when there wasn’t enough gold to back our money, silver became the standard. But in 1933, FDR took the dollar off the gold standard, where our money was backed by physical gold in the vaults of Fort Knox. The final nail in this coffin was pounded home in 1971, when then-president Nixon announced that the US government would no longer convert dollars to gold.
What this means is that the US, like the currencies of many other countries, only has value because we all believe it has value. In essence, the dollar is a product and the value of it goes up and down according to how much of a demand there is for it.
This is one of the more essential functions of the financial markets, centered on Wall Street in New York City, Bond Street in London and other financial centers around the world.
Yet the value of the dollar is clearly dropping. It has dropped over six percent this year, with an expectation by some that it will drop another 20% before the end of the year. Such a loss in value could have serious repercussions, both for the nation and for us individually.
On the most basic level, the value of the dollar is calculated based upon how much people are willing to pay for it on an international level. All currencies are valued based on this exchange rate, comparing the value of one country’s currency to another.
In most cases, they are compared to the US dollar, as it has been the world’s reserve currency since the end of World War II. On the other hand, the dollar’s value is in comparison to other major currencies, like the Euro.
Threats Against the Dollar
The fact that the dollar is the world’s reserve currency is mostly due to the strength of the US economy.
Not to malign anyone who fought in the war, but it was US industrial might, more than anything, else, that led to the winning of World War II.
At the end of the war, we were the only major global power left standing, economically speaking. That’s what led to the dollar becoming the world’s reserve currency and the currency of international trade.
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But things have changed since then. The other countries involved in that war have rebuilt, in some cases with US aid. In the process of rebuilding, they have striven to go far beyond where they originally were, growing their economies. Today, some of those countries are our biggest trading partners.
When the European Union was formed in 1993, one of its prime purposes was to create a joint economy that would allow them to compete better in the global market. While their combined GDP is still about 40% lower than the USA, they are working on closing that gap. At this time, their joint economy is third in the world, after the US and China and they are one of the world’s biggest trading blocks.
This has led to the Euro slowly gaining a foothold in taking over as the world’s reserve currency, with roughly 20% of international commerce taking place in Euros, compared to 60% for dollars.
But the EU isn’t the only threat on this particular horizon.
China and Russia have signed an agreement to trade in their national currencies, as have China and Japan.
This process of moving away from the dollar, called dedollarisation, is weakening the US financial position, as we are losing the advantage of having other countries need our dollars to do business. From the end of WWII until 2011, that has helped to prop up the value of the dollar.
Effects of the Pandemic
The COVID-19 pandemic, which swept the world, has had devastating effects on both our national economy and the world’s. With so many people staying home in response to government lockdowns, the demand for products and services declined as well.
This has been most devastating to small businesses, with millions of businesses have shuttered their doors for good; but it has also had a direct affect on the value of the dollar. With a lowering of product demand, there has also been a lowering of international trade by roughly 15.4%.
That has reduced the demand on the dollar, one of the prime factors in driving the price of the dollar.
While we should see a recovery of the demand for the dollar as the pandemic ends and people return to their normal lives, there’s no guarantee of that. An awfully lot depends on what the “new normal” is going to look like and how closely it will match the normal that existed before the pandemic.
We’re already experiencing somewhat of an economic recovery from the pandemic, most especially in the housing market. People are now spending the money they were saving during the pandemic, especially on large purchases.
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The housing market is booming, to the point where it has created lumber shortages, driving up the cost of lumber so much that the average cost of a new home is $35,000 more than a year ago.
But we are yet to see just how the international trade markets will shake out.
There’s currently a lot of anti-Chinese sentiment in the country, due to the way that the Chinese government handled the pandemic and suspicions that it was an intentional act against us and the rest of the world.
More and more people are leaning towards accepting that the virus came out of a Chinese bio-laboratory and are having a hard time accepting the idea that it could have been accidental.
At the same time, US businesses are struggling to recover from the pandemic, with many retail outlets shutting down stores in an attempt to avoid bankruptcy.
Small manufacturers are suffering as well, unable to take up the slack. We are literally in a place where we need China’s trade goods.
We’re Out Own Worst Enemy
Perhaps the biggest part of this though is contained within our borders. More specifically, it’s housed within the halls of Congress. All those stimulus checks that everyone was happy to receive have come with a price; that of over four trillion dollars.
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Congress went on a spending spree, creating several trillion dollar plus “relief” bills, which included much more than relief to those who suffered from the devastating effects of COVID on the economy.
Unfortunately, this has taught Congress something that they had merely suspected before; that they can spend massive amounts of money with impunity.
While the various COVID relief bills did contain money for relief and economic stimulus, much of it was pure pork, pet projects for one political party, powerful lawmaker or another. It was disguised as help for the average person or small business; but it was really about getting money to their friends; crony capitalism at its best.
Billions were sent abroad from those packages, to pay for pet projects in other countries. Other billions were given to cities to cover their financial shortfall, disguised as “Coronavirus reparations” but actually covering poor policy decisions that had put those cities in financial straits before the pandemic started. I could go on, but there’s no sense in raising my blood pressure.
There are three clear results of creating all this money out of thin air. The first is that Congress is on a spending spree, looking to see how many other trillion plus dollar packages they can vote into law. The second is that they have led to the expected inflation.
Somehow our lawmakers have never learned the lesson that you can’t create money out of thin air, without watering down the value of existing money. That’s the true cause of inflation, not greedy companies raising prices.
We are currently facing the highest inflation that we’ve seen in over a decade. All through both Obama and Trump’s presidencies, inflation has been hovering around one percent, sometimes lower. Yet we are now facing inflation of nearly five percent, the highest in over 30 years.
International markets have taken note of this and are concerned about the US economy in general.
The good news about the coronavirus vaccine has actually added to this inflation, as well as lowering the pressure on the price of the dollar, helping it to go down.
With the vaccines now available, there is increased hope that economies around the world will recover. That has, in turn, reduced the need for international investors to buy dollars, as a hedge to protect their money.
While the dollar is always seen as a secure investment, there are other places where they can invest their money and expect a better return on that investment.
Should We Be Concerned About All This?
All of this is actually very concerting. Not only does it speak of the US economy becoming more shaky; but we can expect the cost of goods to increase due to inflation.
That will continue the upwards push on inflation, which may very well stick around for a while.
We’re already seeing major increases in the cost of some items, like the aforementioned lumber, as well as gasoline.
Overall, energy prices have gone up, as well as the cost of food. We can expect these things to continue climbing, as well as the cost of housing.
Overall, the buying power of the consumer will decline, as well as the amount of disposable income we have available to spend.
Less disposable income means less money for buying what are considered non-essential purchases, such as clothing, new cars and new televisions. While people will still be buying those items, they will also be hanging on to them longer, rather than replacing them. That reduces the sales of those categories of goods, affecting jobs.
Basically, what this all boils down to is that we’re heading into another recessionary period. The Federal Reserve Bank is doing everything they can to stop that, with the prime interest rate at 3.25%; lower than it was even a year ago. But any action the Fed takes doesn’t have a visible effect on the economy for several months; sometimes over a year. So it may be some time before we see things turning around again.
As long as Congress keeps spending money like kids in a candy store, we can expect the value of the dollar to keep dropping and inflation to keep rising. But there doesn’t seem to be any desire to change that around in Washington, with Democrats pushing a two-trillion plus dollar “infrastructure bill” that has little to do with infrastructure and President Biden proposing a six-trillion plus dollar federal budget, by far the largest we’ve ever seen.
Just like a parent who looks at their teenager’s spending habits, when that child asks for more money, the world’s financial markets are going to see the trend in irresponsible spending in the halls of Congress.
As long as it continues, they’re not going to be any more interested in giving us money, through buying US bonds, than that parent would be in giving their child a hundred dollars of their hard-earned money to blow.
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The Dollar has to fall so the elite will become the slave master and ya’ll will become the slaves. I ck the dollar every day. it’s not good.
We are seeing a world change. That I thought that I in my life time, I would not see. “BUT” here we are. The best is yet to come and “if you are not ready” then you will go down the rabbit hole and never to return. {YES isn’t it a wonderful life “WE” have made for our SELF”S…}
But remember that you have nothing to fear, if you have excepted My JESUS as your Lord and Savior. All this on this earth that GOD has created will be Destroyed by his Great and Mighty Hand. So this dollar and so called money that we live by, is nothing to you when you die. There will not be a U-Haul behind any Hurst… People have tried for as long as man has been here and the only thing that came from them doing that . Is that some other person came and took it. So all this means nothing. But your SOUL is a hole nother thing. God said you have FREE WILL. So it will be {only you} that will stand and be Judged for the choices you make.
All will “hear” the great and mighty trumpet. so what do we do {“PRAY”}
So don’t wright stupid shit on here about what I have said. You will see soon enough. just keep your eye’s on Jesus…
Give thumbs down if you don’t like it. That’s cool. Just don’t Dam MY GOD… You can say what you want about me.
Good Article they need to hear the real truth…
Welcome to the new Babylon…
PS: miss Tiddy, said Hi… you know who you are. 🙂
Yes, only God can save America now. While our nation has become extremely wicked, and those that hate God (mostly in the Demon-rat party, many RINO Repocons too) have lost their minds, many scratch their heads about where did common sense go.
What has happened to many of our leaders is their extreme wickedness has moved God to hand them over to a depraved mind as Paul tells us in Romans 1:18-32 so they devolve into creatures of lower living that begin to believe everything opposite God and reality. This is how a people or nation becomes as Isaiah 5:20 warns:
“Woe to those who call evil good
and good evil,
who put darkness for light
and light for darkness,
who put bitter for sweet
and sweet for bitter.”
While America is ripe for judgment, there are still many believers who stand with God and against this evil in our nation, but we must pray for reformation in the Churches throughout the land for many have become like the two that Jesus disliked in Revelation 2 and 3. The Church cannot compromise with sin, nor be apathetic for sharing God’s Word and transforming the culture into godly people, not remaining the ungodly.
I do believe that the Demon-rats stole this election through massive fraud. Bejing Biden is not the 2nd most popular President in American history behind Washington. Biden probably couldn’t fill a high school auditorium if he came to your city to speak but Trump had turn outs that Obama would be jealous about! As such, God will right the wrongs of this most wicked group of evil doers. I believe God allowed their steal because why save a nation physically when our spiritual path is to the lake of fire. I believe God desires to open the eyes of so many who are blinded by their sins and the lies of their own reality and their trust in man and the Demon-rat party.
What better way then to allow these people to suffer from their actions, just like the prodigal son. Remove their blessings, and let them reap what they have sown and maybe an “aha” moment will arise with a softening of their hardened hearts that the seeds of God’s Truth might be planted and sprout.
I believe God wants to save America just as He helped to birth it, but God wants a renewed heart, not a blind and wicked people who would be stubborn to change.
Believer, please do the following daily:
1) Pray for reformation in the body of Christ to share the truth in the Gospel and have a renewed excitement for doing Kingdom work as evangelists in their own sphere’s of influence.
2) Pray for God to bring leaders into our nation that fear Him but, live in joy of His great goodness and everlasting mercies. These leaders who God can use to restore righteousness, truth and justice to our nation.
3) Pray for a revival in the land that will affect all spheres of influence – academia, media, sports and entertainment, big tech, US corporations, judicial, legislative and executive
branches of government, etc.
Red Ant,
This is as subject that hasn’t come up from what have seen. I would think most of us are of similar mind. I guess I have been a prepper all of my life, and I am now with-in reason.
What needs to be talked about is that this is a battle between Good and evil. Jesus and Satan.
In all the prepper check lists I have seen, I never seen anyone include a Bible. This IS your best preparation.
President Trump recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capitol was one last items to fall into place.
We are coming to the end of the Church age and the Church will be taken up in the Rapture. After that starts the Tribulation. A seven year period of hell on earth. 2/3rds of the worlds population will die. Everything is laid out in the Bible. Nothing surprises God.
Jesus’s most stressed warning is DO NOT Be Deceived! The UFO report that is coming out will confirm another life form exists. DO NOT be deceived! These are fallen angels (demons) posing a lie. This will be used to explain many of their lies. You will see miracles by demons, DO NOT be deceived!
If you are a saved Christian talk to your family, friends, neighbors and co-workers, about being Born Again!
We could have many things happen to us before the Rapture which we are all prepared for. However, don’t be disappointed if you are out of here and YOUR 10 years of food and ammo won’t be used. If you can’t help your loved ones to get saved, pray for them and leave a Bible in your gun vault and let them know where they can find the combination. I Pray for You and God bless America!
I’ve just whacked a hornet nest, but,…….. The Bible also said there will be scoffers in the last days. God bless you all
@Truth4u
Thank you.
We are blessed only because Jesus was crushed on the cross for our sins.
Praise GOD…
What things are coming to is the elimination of physical money so the Government can track every dollar you spend (electronic money), and reduce your income if you do not follow Government guidelines to “punish” you. This will bring on a “barter economy” which the Government cannot track or control. I have a skill you need, you have a thing I need. So, we come to an agreement or “trade” where no money changes hands, but we both get what we want with no interferences. Also, you cannot “tax” a barter economy where nobody throws anything away, but gets it repaired by bartering. This can cause serious problems for a consumer economy that we already have moved into, and 100 year old skills are suddenly extremely valuable once again. I haven’t bought a new Truck since 1990 because I cannot afford the extremely high monthly payments. I haven’t bought a new TV since 2001 because the old one gets fixed to play again. My “Computer” is an old Second Generation Kindle Fire HD I “bartered” for, the very one I am using now. I tithe my Church by doing work for them. Eventually, you too will do the same because you will have no other choice. Unless the murderer Putin ends this weary world by one button push.
Thank ya’ll for the comment. God Bless…
Reddog and others…
You should have this in your prep bag, a Holy Bible. That is the first thing on my list and in all my BOB bags have a bible in them.
Ya’ll said it and I will see my brother and sisters in Christ being brought up in the clouds, and then we will come down from the sky and wipe the wickedness from this earth.
We will rejoice in sadness. I say this because so many are and will be deceived and fallow the evil one. {O’ and the dollar, wont be here as it is now.}
GOD be with you.
Hey don’t worry about the hornets, there sting will not hurt the ones that are in CHRIST…
I used to watch the relationship between the price of goods/services, stock markets, and precious metals…. when one goes up something else may go down (e.g. gold vs. Dow)
Price of goods and interest rates are , or were, tied together. However, lately the price of goods-up, stocks- up, gold & Silver – up, and interest rates Down. I’m just a Smo on the street, but I see the Dollar as loosing ground fast.
Dave: I think you mean schmoo. Perhaps you are not old enough to remember Al Capp, a cartoonist with a biting political satire to his strips. Schmoo: “The shmoo (plural: shmoos, also shmoon) is a fictional cartoon creature created by Al Capp (1909-1979); the character first appeared in the comic strip Li’l Abner on August 31, 1948. The popular character has gone on to influence pop culture, language, geopolitics, human history, and even science.
Al Capp and Walt Kelly with his Pogo comic strip were savagely political cartoonists hiding their political commentary behind fictional characters. They were popular in the 50s and 60s. A schmoo was a totally clueless character, sort of like our, well, perhaps yours, but certainly not mine, resident of the mansion on PA Ave called the white house. Not to be confused with White Castle which is something totally different.
OMG. He is going to meet with Putin. Watch for an announcement any day now that Ole’ Two Blast is perfectly okay with Russian once again occupying Ukraine, Hungary, Slovakia, The Czech Republic, Slovenia, Poland, the Baltic countries and Prussia, also all of the former Yugoslavia.
Yeah, about 35% inflation (this includes EVERYTHING) since the stolen election about 16 months ago. This was no worry when everything was plentiful, but thanks to a Socialist leaning regime, the Dollar is sliding rapidly into a dark hole where we may never live to see the end.
YOU ALL ARE SO RIGHT! JUST REMEMBERING THAT GOD IS STILL IN CONTROLL!! KEEP THE FAITH AND HANG ON!! I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD BE HERE TO SEE THIS ALL HAPPENING EITHER, AND YET HERE I AM??! ONLY GOD KNOWS PEOPLES HEARTS AND WHY THEY DO WHAT THEY DO! AS FOR ME I WILL SERVE THE LORD!! HE IS MY REFUGE AND SHELTER AND I WILL TRUST HIM! PERIOD!!
I agree with all of you that we have brought down the Judgment of God upon us as a nation.
The Bible is full of examples of what happens when a nation turns away from the teachings of The Lord and take up with idol worship, child sacrifice and immoral behaviors. If you look at the nation of Israel in the Bible as a type of America, you can see history repeating itself.
Other, better educated people than I have written a number of books and articles about the subject, and I would recommend to anyone interested to check them out for a better idea of what to expect in the years to come. Many are available for free in the Amazon Kindle app, and many more are available from other sources.
To give a quick summary, though, the nation once dedicated to God falls into a pattern of copying the sinful behaviors and pagan practices of the surrounding countries. Instead of maintaining itself as a “nation apart”, it embraces assimilation. Life, once considered precious, is cheapened. Children are viewed as a disposable commodity rather than a sign of God’s blessing. The aged are viewed as a nuisance and a burden rather than being respected and valued as a resource of wisdom and information. Those who call upon The Lord are mocked as being old fashioned and narrow minded. Honesty is considered only for “suckers” too dumb to game the system. Modesty and sexual restraint are likewise ridiculed. Evil things are promoted as being good, while things that the people of God know to be good are now deemed to be evil, and are condemned as being restrictive or exclusive to certain groups.
Does all this sound familiar? It should…it reads like today’s newspaper but was written thousands of years ago by people inspired by God to record it as it happened and as was revealed through prophecy.
What we as preppers can do to get ready for this is to buy now what we can comfortably afford and store, and make sure that we have taken steps to ensure that we can get through an extended period of economic hardship and political unrest.
As Americans, we can prepare for an uncertain future by voting for the people who are best able to get us through the very difficult period looming over us. We can also become involved by becoming poll workers to help ensure that the voting process is conducted fairly and legally at all levels. Campaigning for candidates that will lead our country honestly and with a real love for the USA is another way to help.
As Christians, we can prepare for the future by prayer, by educating ourselves not only in what the Scripture says but also in ways to combat the very evil that sweeps our country as we speak. Learning more about the ways they are sneaking their agendas into every aspect of our lives is the best way to combat the constant barrage of propaganda. Learning more about how to disarm their specious arguments is of paramount importance. And be sure to put on “the full armor of God” to protect against the evil that seeks to destroy our country, ourselves and our souls.
Ms Kitty,
I believe that the enemy want us to believe we have lost. He wants us to think judgement rather than God’s goodness and ever lasting mercy! He wants us to believe defeat over victory, but this is a lie. The enemy is running scared that the truth is surfacing!
Does America deserve judgment with 60 years of warring with God from SCOTUS (1962, 1973 and 2016)? A Demon-rat party that celebrates the mass murder of innocent! Yes, but so do you and I, yet God’s great Mercy allowed us to be saved in knowing Christ.
Now, the number of faithful Christians is a small minority in our nation today (maybe 10% would be my guess), but you know what, the majority of Americans did not vote for the evil that the Demon-rats are supporting! Had the Demon-rats been honest with the Americans people about who they are, and what they are willing to do for their tyranny, the would maybe get 10% of the vote. The election was stolen, and they do not represent a majority of Americans even today! Watch Dinesh D’Souza movie called, “Hillary’s America” to understand the evil tactics and mindset of the enemies of God and America!
Had the majority of Americans voted for this party of demon influenced people, then I would be less optimistic that God’s Mercy has not ended for our nation. Now doubt, this nation is foolish to continue mocking God and exporting evil in every direction, but this is a select few who have lied, and stolen their positions of authority in this nation against the people who are deceived and against the will of many who do not side with these evil doers.
As a result of this circumstance, I believe God has heard the prayers of His people, and He will not stand idle in allowing evil to prosper like this. As many prophets through the voice of the Holy Spirit have declared that God would be exposing the truth of these evil doers secret plans and hidden sins! He has been exposing evil like no other time I’ve witnessed.
Now, the wolves are guarding the hen house, so justice is not likely to come quickly, but after exposure and a beginning of the masses eyes being opened, God can change things in the right moment.
So, declare and pray for a great revival in America. Pray that America is destroyed after the rapture because upwards of 50% would be taken away. Do what you can to spread the Word to the ungodly in your own sphere of influence that the Holy Spirit might draw them in. Encourage other Christians that God who is with us is greater than all the evil leaders in high places across America!
Take a position of victory over America, not defeat for God can use this nation to be a light to the world at least until the rapture. There if no doubt that the Great Tribulation is coming the century! Matthew 24:32-35 tells us that the Fig tree was established on May 14, 1948 and a the generation will see all prophecy fulfilled. Genesis 6:3 tells us 120 years maximum for a mankind to live, so the second coming could be anytime from 2028 to 2069. Matthew 24:21-22 tells us the Father would give a wicked world more time, but because we will annihilate all flesh on earth He is forced to shorten those days. God’s grace and mercy is seen in a time when the Church is gone and man’s wickedness is like the days of Noah that not a minute passes without evil thoughts.
So, how much more Mercy might God give a nation that is a rhyme to Israel in being a light of truth to the world? Jesus expects a worthy Bride when He comes to get her! America is still the one nation with more believers than any other. The state of the bride in America is pretty disgraceful right now, so I expect there must be a revival.
Also, why did God not let Trump win fair and rightfully, or expose the fraud sooner? I believe He wants Americans to feel the pain that this evil group will bring. Think of all the Trump voters who are not followers of Christ, when God saves America, not Trump, there are many new believers!
What about so many ignorant and blind people voting for the Demon-rats thinking they would be a better option than Trump? They will be awakened to who the tyrants are and who is destructive to this nation and traitors to foreign entities. Yes, the Demon-rats need to be seen for who they are before an awakening to another reality based in truth, not lies is desired. This new reality will be the Lord Jesus Christ and the Word of God!
Yes, put Bibles and other spiritual literature in your preps. Every box of end of world I have included a Bible, or some Bible study course or children’s books, or just good reading. Very important to have a healthy mind and spiritually strong. Even have playing cards and some games. May get bored because phone or tv could be off for a while.
You’veprett much nailed it Rich.
The former Soviet is exiting SWIFT as well. The glut of dollars around the world drives import prices up in dollar terms.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/russias-186-billion-sovereign-wealth-fund-dumps-all-dollar-assets
This article addressed the Russians dumping their dollars. They claim it’s because of “concerns over cybersecurity issues”. Considering that several of the recent hacks have been by Russian nationals, one wonders if they deliberately manufactured this rather lame excuse. It seems unlikely that an independent agent would be allowed to operate there, especially since it could be construed as an act of aggression against our country. Except by a president who either is playing along with this step of the great reset and will use the further instability of our country to further foreign interests, or who doesn’t have the guts to stand up against Putin.
This just in: DOJ just announced that millions of ransom dollars in cryptocurrency paid to the hackers of the Colonial Pipeline have been recovered. Interesting. It’s being called the “majority” of the total amount. Sounds like a deal was made, somewhere.
Don’t count on a rapture before the tribulation. (MAT 24:26-31) We will be here through the seals, the trumpets as well as the Abomination, mark of the beast and persecution from the 7 headed beast of revelation so prepare your hearts and minds now. (REV12:17) ( REV 20:4) The dead in Christ will be raised and we will be changed at the return of christ at the last/7th trumpet of revelation (1COR 15:51-52) just before God pours out the final bowls of wrath on the wicked rulers of this world. (REV 14:14-16) We are in for a 3-1/2 year period of persecution and being hunted down by rulers and neighbors alike, brother will betray brother, children will turn in their parents, we will be hated by all men for His Names sake. (REV 13:5-7)( LK 21:16-17) Pack a Bible yes but not until its time to go because we all need to be feeding from that Book daily until that day finally comes, and then when it comes we will have the understanding and divine guidance needed to weather the storm and keep the faith.
( REV 13:9-10) ( MK 13:1-13)
William Bratrud
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you. Finley some one that knows the truth and believes it.
I’ve been trying for years to get one person to say what you have said.
Praise GOD…..
Thanks for your input William. However, I am pretty sure the Rapture is pretrib.
The Bible says life will be pretty much like normal before the Rapture. Life will be like in the days of Noah and the days of Lot. People buying and selling and engaging in marriage. The people did not know the hell that was about to be unleashed in Judgement. I don’t think life will be normal with 100 lb. hailstones, 1/3 of the oceans will be dead, asteroids pounding the earth, diseases, boils, earthquakes, tormented with scorpions from the pit of the earth 2/3 of the population dead,…. I wouldn’t want to be a wedding planner then.
As John describes in Revelations 4:1 he heard a trumpet and a voice that said ” Come up here”. The Church is not heard from again in Revelation until chapter 19 at the marriage supper of the Lamb.
I don’t believe Jesus would let his “wife” get beat up for most of the Tribulation and be beheaded near the end. I believe the church will go through some testing, but not experience the wrath of God. We are not appointed for Judgement…… But leave the combination for your gun safe to your unsaved loved ones and friends,….. they will need it.
Here is what the Bible says about the resurrection of Believers, often referred to as “the rapture” by many leading Bible teachers of our day. If we just listen to the Word of God we may hear a different message from the one we are commonly taught by men. This is purely scripture with no commentary…..please try to leave your bias aside as you read what Gods Word actually says about the resurrection of Believers in the last days.
(Mathew 24:29-31)
29Immediately after the tribulation of those days:
‘The sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.b’
30At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven,c and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.d 31And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
(Luke 21:25-28)
25There will be signs in the sun and moon and stars, and on the earth dismay among the nations, bewildered by the roaring of the sea and the surging of the waves. 26Men will faint from fear and anxiety over what is coming upon the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.b 28When these things begin to happen, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”
The Order of Resurrection
(1 Corinthians 15)
20But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23But each in his own turn: Christ the firstfruits; then at His coming, those who belong to Him…..
…..51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
1 Thes 4
15By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.
The Seventh Trumpet
(Revelation 11:15-19)
15Then the seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and loud voices called out in heaven:
“The kingdom of the world
has become the kingdom of our Lord
and of His Christ,
and He will reign forever and ever.”
16And the twenty-four elders who sit on their thrones before God fell on their faces and worshiped God, 17saying:
“We give thanks to You, O Lord God Almighty,
the One who is and who was,b
because You have taken Your great power
and have begun to reign.
18The nations were enraged,c
and Your wrath has come.
The time has come to judge the deadd
and to reward Your servants the prophets,
as well as the saints and those who fear Your name,
both small and great—
and to destroy those who destroy the earth.”
19Then the temple of God in heaven was opened, and the ark of His covenant appeared in His temple. And there were flashes of lightning, and rumblings, and peals of thunder, and an earthquake, and a great hailstorm.
(Revelation 14)
14And I looked and saw a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was One like the Son of Man,c with a golden crown on His head and a sharp sickle in His hand.
15Then another angel came out of the temple, crying out in a loud voice to the One seated on the cloud, “Swing Your sickle and reap, because the time has come to harvest; for the crop of the earth is ripe.” 16So the One seated on the cloud swung His sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested.
17Then another angel came out of the temple in heaven, and he too had a sharp sickle. 18Still another angel, with authority over the fire, came from the altar and called out in a loud voice to the angel with the sharp sickle, “Swing your sharp sickle and gather the clusters of grapes from the vine of the earth, because its grapes are ripe.”
19So the angel swung his sickle over the earth and gathered the grapes of the earth, and he threw them into the great winepress of God’s wrath. 20And the winepress was trodden outside the city, and the blood that flowed from it rose as high as the bridles of the horses for a distance of 1,600 stadia.d
The Parable of the Net
(Mathew 13)
47Once again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was cast into the sea and caught all kinds of fish. 48When it was full, the men pulled it ashore. Then they sat down and sorted the good fish into containers, but threw the bad away.
49So will it be at the end of the age: The angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous, 50and throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
51Have you understood all these things?”
(Daniel 12)
1“At that time Michael, the great prince who stands watch over your people, will rise up. There will be a time of distress, the likes of which will not have occurred from the beginning of nations until that time. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.
2And many who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake, some to everlasting life, but others to shame and everlasting contempt.a 3Then the wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens,b and those who lead many to righteousness will shine like the stars forever and ever.c
(John 6)
Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.
(Revelation 6)
The Fifth Seal: The Martyrs
9And when the Lamb opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony they had upheld. 10And they cried out in a loud voice, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You avenge our blood and judge those who dwell upon the earth?”
11Then each of them was given a white robe and told to rest a little while longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers, were killed, just as they had been killed.
Revelation 20
4Then I saw the thrones, and those seated on them had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image, and had not received its mark on their foreheads or hands. And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
5The rest of the dead did not come back to life until the thousand years were complete. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection! The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him for a thousand years.
William Bratrud
Yes, I know all that you have posted very well and if you go read what I posted. It will not matter post or pre. Just as long as you accept JESUS. That is the most important part for you to make it to Heaven.
All things will be known when you stand before the Glory of GOD.
We can go on for ever about post or pre God will show us when the time is right. I’ve seen when I will be brought up in the clouds. GOD showed me in a dream but did not show me any place or time. So that is why my GOD gave us free will, so we can believe the way we see fit for our selfs. I fill ya on how you see and read GOD’S words. Remember free will. I’m not bias. It can be one way or the other. Better be ready. If pre or post.
I due respect your opinion.
Thank you. I do enjoy talking about GODS book. Chocolate or Vanilla, they are still both ice cream.
A few minor corrections: Roosevelt took the U.S. off gold backed currency in the mid 1930s, along with a majority of the European nations who did the same.
Nixon took us off the silver standard. Oldsters will remember that the paper currency in our wallets used to read “Silver Certificate” and one could, with due notice to the bank, trade silver certificates for metal silver dollars. Not any more and if you look at the green toilet paper in your wallet today it says that it is a Federal Reserve Note, backed by a Ponzi scheme. Well, it doesn’t actually say, “Ponzi Scheme Monopoly Money.”
I am reading my first Ludwig von Mises book on the Great Depression. That is the 1930s depression, not the 2020s depression which we are about to endure. Unlike Keynes who touted the horse pucky idea that by creating more and more worthless money, governments could in essence buy their way out of financial difficulty. Mises preaches financial stability by frugal practices and the gold standard for currency backing.
In addition to the dollar being king because we were the 800 pound gorilla in the financial market for so many years after WWII, the other single most factor that made the dollar king was political stability and personal property rights.
Too many foreign countries were anything but politically stable and too many treated personal property as if it were a gift from the government as opposed to a legitimate inherent right based on law. While the value might fluctuate based on currency exchange, the basic value was guaranteed by virtue of political stability and legal property rights that were entrenched in U.S. law.
One has to merely look at Greece’s seizure of bank accounts in order to help ameliorate their crushing debt owed to the EU to see why folks don’t invest money in Greece for any kind of long term stability.
Can anyone say “Venezuela”? Another country where property rights are at the whim of whomever is in power at the moment. That’s the reason corporate and private big money investors have fled Venezuela and why it is the mangy dog of the investment world. Which, of course, accounts for the raging inflation in that country. They don’t have to worry about balance of trade. They can’t afford to buy imported matches, let along clothing, TVs or cars. They can’t even buy Walmart quality clothes from China unless the Chinese are, for control purposes, extending credit to that benighted country.
All of that is a preamble to another reason why investors are taking a second look at U.S. paper. With rioting in the streets and rumors of armed revolt floating in the air, skittish investors are losing interest in U.S. paper. Reports of spending trillions of dollars that don’t exist make investors nervous.
Even a casual reading of the results of all the public works projects undertaken by the U.S. government during the 1930s reveals that they just flat didn’t do what all the politicos promised. In fact, they prolonged the depression and enhanced it.
Read Mises’ book The Great Depression. It is mind-boggling detailed but it does lay out how the programs that were supposed to cure the Depression, failed to cure it and actually made the disease worse. Plow through it. It will awaken you to where we are headed.
To: Left Coast Chuck!
Right on the money! Also, love the label for CA. I left the tarnished state in 1990 for AZ and never looked back as a 4th generation CA. Once the state to Nixon and Regan, no there are putrid Marxist whose names should go down in the history of shame.
I spent weeks in Venezuela prior to Marxist destruction. In early 2000s, I would go there with my US dollar which was tied at 35 Bolivars to $1, but people at my company would exchange 700 Bolivars to my $1, and this was before any inflation and there was plenty of food, coffee, and chocolate! I was planning to take vacation at Margarita Island for a few weeks because $25/day would pay for everything I wanted – lobster, shrimp, fish, steak, drinks, hotel, and water sports!
It only took a few years later and people couldn’t buy eggs or milk in the stores! People had to wait hours in lines for water, it got really bad, and probably still is. Marxist took a wonderful nation that had so much potential had Chavez thought to imitate Simon Bolivar instead of evil Castro and other Marxist!
Many Venezuelans left SA to come here because of the evils of Marxism! Many very wealthy, lost much to leave to a country that offered more freedoms. If America falls to Marxists, there will be no very few countries for them to go. Where the hell is our military to defend the Constitution – did the CCP buy them off too?
Americans are in for a shft hole experience if these Demon-rats, BLM and Antifa cannot be stopped! American the cesspool of crime, poverty, murder, immorality, hatred and tyranny is what it will become!
As an addendum to my post, Rich M. asks if you should be worried about the trillions with a capital T of bonds and other notes the U.S. government has floated. My short response (yes, I can post a short response) is that you damned well should be concerned. Your half a million dollars in your 401K won’t be worth much when it takes $1,000 to buy a few slices of Wonder Bread. That’s where we are headed if the fools we have elected to run the country don’t get off the spend to get out of debt policy that they are currently following.
Hi, Chuck. Always enjoy hearing from you as you seem to be the voice of reason on this site as opposed to all the bible thumpers who should really take their collective psychoses somewhere else. Rich M has opened a Pandora’s box with this subject. The short answer to the question, “should we be concerned” is a resounding, YES! The greatest evil in our modern financial world is constant inflation which obviously erodes the value of our currency daily which no thinking person can argue with. It’s obvious. If we assign a value of 1 dollar to the American dollar at the creation of the FED in 1913 and factor in an inflation rate of 2% per year (on average) until now you’ll find that the dollar is worth maybe 5 cents or so. The purchasing power of the USD is at an all time low which could be a precursor to hyperinflation. As the US goes so does the rest of the world. What I find sadly lacking amongst all these bible thumpers is that not one of them has mentioned that the bible states that an even greater evil is usury. Not only once but numerous times. Usury has been known historically to destroy countries from within. And today we see usury in the form of 20 to 30% charged by credit card companies to anyone carrying a balance on their credit cards. That is lunacy and USURY! The “chip” spoken of in the bible is already here. Not in our hands but in our debit and credit cards and in those damn effing “smart” phones whose widespread and constant use is doing nothing so much as making their users more and more stupid over time. You give your power over to electronic devices and you DO become more stupid. I was FORCED by my effing bank to adopt a new debit card with the new chip in it, “for security reasons”, otherwise I wouldn’t have access to my bank accounts or wouldn’t be able to buy anything. Sound familiar? Still burns my butt that I was FORCED to do it. Won’t forgive my scumbag bank for that. And for all you bible thumpers (I didn’t start the discussion about religion or the evil clown up in the sky) the four horsemen are already here. It’s happening before our very eyes for those with eyes to see. In a nutshell, Chuck, this is what’s happened financially since the covert creation of the private institution known as the FED in 1913. In 1913 the Federal Reserve Act created a central bank with the ability to “manage” the country’s money supply. And they’ve done a really fine job of it. In 1929 the stock market crashes in the lead up to the great depression. Right now we have a HUGE stock market bubble and like all bubbles will eventually burst. This could happen sooner than later. The stock market to GDP ratio should be no more than at the very most, 140%. Today it stands at OVER 200%. The stock market is SEVERELY overvalued, overleveraged and most are buying on margin (greed) thinking that the stock market will keep going up forever. SURPRISE! Again, sound familiar? In the early thirties US president Roosevelt criminalizes the possession of gold. Around 1940 the Bretton Woods agreement establishes the gold standard and the USD as the world’s reserve currency. On Dec. 07, 1941 the US was brought into the war by the Japanese. Funny how it all ties together. First they steal your gold. Then they establish the gold standard and make the USD the world’s reserve currency. And only THEN does the US enter the war. H’mmm. Interesting. Around 1970 the gold standard is abandoned and currencies are no longer linked to gold. A boon for war mongers. Need more money for the next war? Now you’re not tied to the gold standard anymore. Just print all the money you need. Now it’s just numbers on a screen. “Money for nothing” (Dire Straits) and money from nothing. Out of nothing. From thin air backed by nothing. You need a loan, sir. We’re happy to oblige. Let’s just type the numbers on the screen for you. There you go, sir. You’re now $50,000 dollars in debt at the push of a button. Cyber money. We haven’t had real peace since the end of the last world war. I’m only going to address the wars involving the US. At the moment there are 93 “conflicts” on the list starting with the revolutionary war of 1775. 4 still ongoing. I’ll address only the major conflicts. There are many more. If you want to know more do your own research. After the end of WWII we’ve had Operation Beleaguer. Lebanon Crisis. Vietnam War. Korean DMZ conflict. Dominican Civil War. Lebanon again. Grenada. Panama. Gulf War. Iraq. Somalia. Bosnia. Haiti. Kosovo. And then the 21st century wars starting with Afghanistan. And it goes on and on. And these are only the conflicts that the US was involved in. There are many, many more involving the other countries. A windfall for all the arms manufacturers. Gotta keep all those factories humming and all those people employed somehow. More voters. Cannon fodder for the politicians. More scumbags. Quantitative easing (QE1) begins in response to the housing crash of 2008. A wonderfully euphemistic phrase for uncontrolled money printing. Idiots. They’ve now painted themselves into a corner and guess who’s going to suffer because of it. Not them. In 2020 the US money supply grew by almost 4 Trillion. Equal to 20% of all dollars ever created. The US debt is now purported to be larger than its GDP. US GDP is approx. 20 trillion. Oops! To perhaps bring it into closer perspective; in 1913 one dollar would buy you 30 Hershey’s chocolate bars. Today those same chocolate bars would cost you over $26 dollars. Today that same dollar might get you a small Macdonalds coffee. On a good day. 😉 I see nothing good in our near future. We don’t need to worry about EMP or nuclear or chemical or biological war. Our demise will be financial in nature. I’m on record as having said that many times and here it is. For those that believe in god, God help us all because only a miracle will save our asses this time.
To Armin,
Sorry to Bible Thump the post Armin, especially since im sure that is not of any interest to many here but considering the text is over 2000 years old and it foretells the coming financial crash and solution, inflation, MASSIVE Population reduction, pandemics, major wars, mass global vaccination through deception, rogue Governments and some unprecedented, hellacious natural disasters i think it is something to at least consider. According to that head thumper of a book theres much, much more to come.
William Bratrud
My self, I believe that it will be post rapture. My reason for this is that it says that the antichrist will rage war on the Saints. That’s us. I believe that our faith will be tested all the way to end. Then we will be raptured just before the coming of Christ..
We all can guess what we might think. But right or wrong. It dose not matter if then or later as long as you accept my Lord and savior JESUS CHRIST.
I do so much love to discuss or even argue about the bible. Just as long as we are talking about the truth and love of GOD.
Thank you father GOD for all those that believe in you and your Son.
I Agree, I believe Revelation Gives a very clear picture of the Resurrection in Ch 14 which is after the 7th trumpet and right before the wrath of God is unleashed (the 7 bowls of Wrath). Believers have been suffering at the hands of evil men and rulers since christ died, Our brothers and sisters are being martyred everyday around the world, Why? Because that is what we are appointed to…..The persecutions of men, but not the wrath of God. Tribulation is promised to believers Wrath is coming to unbelievers. I know from an American standpoint its hard to believe that we may be hunted and killed within our own country one day, but we must remember that its happening to our brothers and sisters all over the world today. The promise of no appointment to wrath applies to them as well but they are murdered, raped and pillaged. This must make us question what Paul meant when he said “God has not appointed us to wrath”…. The reality is we must be ready for what is coming lest we be caught unaware and not recognize the beast or Antichrist when they show up because we were too distracted looking for a Pre-trib” Rapture” that isn’t coming. This past year was a wakeup call for believers if Ive ever seen one. The beast system is forming before our very eyes and i think most people are just sleeping right through it. When i saw churches scanning foreheads and wrists for entry and people are being told that they cant buy groceries without a mask one has to stop and think….To get back on topic, The Bible teaches of a Resurrection ( Called the first resurrection) but not of a pre-trib rapture, Although i must admit that early on I believed in and taught the pre trib Rapture for years. As i continued to study the Word and block out what everyone was saying I saw it for what it is. It was not easy to make that transition because there were many prominent bible teachers, men of God whom i admired that I had to disagree with. But at the end of the day I will have to serve God and not men. That doesn’t go to say that we are not all brothers, We will likely disagree on many points of doctrine even until His return so I am content to let our belief in him be the common ground of unity and we’ll try the best we can to peaceably sort through the rest. As long as we can all agree that being forced to receive a mark in order to buy and sell is where we draw the line i think we can work things out.
To Red Ant,
I don’t which I will try to explain later, but if I’m wrong, I’ll could die a marty – no big deal, nothing to worry about if you believe pre-trib for you are ready now, and you’ll be ready later if the Great Tribulation comes! Prophecy only builds your faith in God when you are one of His so to live and see it being fulfilled before your very eyes – it doesn’t get any better than that!
Revelation 19:10…
At this I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “Don’t do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers and sisters who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For it is the Spirit of prophecy who bears testimony to Jesus.”
Funny, but when I find Christians that don’t like Bible prophecy, I observe that this believer has questionable faith, and compromises with culture/sin and doubting God’s Word. At least that has been my experience. Has anyone else seen this in the body of Christ?
What is unfortunate in the body of Christ in America are too many holier-than-thou Christians who get way bent out of shape if someone opposes their belief in the rapture or even that such a concept might exist. The Church has much bigger problems than worrying about the pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib.or no trib!
The body of Christ in America should be worried about the 7 Churches in Revelation as to which one are they! From my viewpoint, there are too many like the tow Churches Jesus disliked in Rev 2 and 3. One that compromised with sin, and the other that was apathetic – not hot or cold! But I digressed.
God knows when each of us are appointed a time to die or if we shall meet Jesus in the air. Most have to die and there is no better test of one’s faith than to proclaim Jesus Christ as Lord and lose your head, or be murdered some other way. We are not in the tribulation period just yet, and many Christians outside America are getting that kind of persecution already! From the beginning of the Church, Jesus warned of the wrath of man that would come upon His followers for it is Jesus who they hate. Forever, this has been a truth with an exclusion of America.
Another reason I don’t believe the faithful of today will be in the Great Tribulation is that this time of Jacobs Trouble is primarily for the Jews and it will be a time of God’s Wrath. Is God so angry that He would have His Bride go through both the wrath of man, and then the Wrath of God? I don’t believe He is that kind of character. i see Him as a God with great Goodness, and everlasting Mercy and a Love that has no equal.
Americans are spoiled for we have escaped the wrath of man being a type of rhyme to Israel, but under the new Covenant of Jeremiah 31:31-33. Also, our nation is a way has a covenant with God that was really only one way because Grace already existed unlike the Jews who have Deutronomy 28. You might ask, how does American have a covenant with God? Look to our Declaration of Independence, our money, our anthem, our Government buildings and historical sites, and even our Constitution which tricks many anti-Christ athiests (can guess where? In the date!)
Just because it says Saints doesn’t mean it is those Saints that are now a part of the Bride of Christ and faithfully following Christ We see in Acts 2 that God Spirit is going to pour out and there will be a great revival in that day. Many will come to Christ during this time, but most, if not Jewish, will likely die for it. God will protect a large remnant of faithful Jews, but 2/3 of all Jews will be murdered; it will be much, much worse than WWII. In the last 3.5 years of the tribulation week, the anti-Christ is waging war against the Jews and anyone that does not take the mark. Many of these Jews will be followers of Jesus as the Messiah and 1/3 of all Jews will be protected from death before the Messiah comes.
Rev 13:6-8 states…
“And the beast opened its mouth to speak blasphemies against God and to slander His name and His tabernacle—those who dwell in heaven. 7Then the beast was permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them, and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation. 8And all who dwell on the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written from the foundation of the world in the Book of Life belonging to the Lamb who was slain.…”
So, Saints includes the Jewish believers too! We are told that the war against the Jews does not happen until they reject worshiping him in their temple at the mid-point of the 70th week of Daniel. This seems to only happen in the last half when God’s Wrath is being poured out.
See, we know many Jews will come to know Jesus in this time for the 12 tribes of 12,000, but also at the very end when the prophecy in Zechariah 12 is fulfilled when they cry out to the one whom they have pierced. Just like many Jews become Saints, so will many Gentiles. These will be Saints too.
I tell unbelievers about the events that are likely to happen in their future and that the Bible predicted these things 2 to 3 thousand years ago. I think when the rapture comes, many will remember what other Christians or their parents told them about God’s Word, and they will believe. Also, this UFO meme is going to be evil one’s excuse and lie to the world about the rapture – aliens abducted people the world over, and so we need more control and power to save you from aliens! Just like our Demon-rat’s playbook for America to never let a crisis go to waste for their political gain and more power of the people. It is sick and it is evil, but that is fallen man for you!
To Truth4u
Well i know there are probably a lot of fellow patriots and Believers here including myself so Im sure that what Im about to say may rub some the wrong way but when we say that this nation has a Covenant with God I would encourage any and all Believers to dig a little and try to understand what god the leaders of this country are worshiping. There is a reason that the Washington monument is the largest standing Obelisk in the world today, that we have the tallest statue of Diana ( Queen of Heaven) in the New York Harbor not representing liberty but rather liberality, why our Government and capitol buildings replicate that of the ancient pagan Roman Temples, venerating many carved images of Deities Christian and pagan alike. There is a reason that the statue of George Washington resembles that of the Baphomet symbolizing the Freemasonic and Luciferian concept of “As above, so below” There is a reason the eye of Horus peers over the Egyptian temple on the back of our dollar bill with the Phrase ” Announcing the birth of the new order of the ages” in latin with the roman numerals 1776 at the base of the pyramid. Why are the streets of Washington laid out in a pentagram, why do our presidents follow the initiation ritual of the Egyptian raising of Osiris during the inauguration ceremony. These and many more are the questions we need to ask ourselves to determine who is truly being worshipped at the highest levels of american leadership. This goes without mentioning the long line of freemasons and other secret cult members that have filled the office of the presidency of this country since its very inception. It is more likely that America is Mystrery Babylon the mother of harlots but I would hardly say that at least at the highest levels this is hardly a “Christian Country”. Judging by the fruits it is highly unlikely that the god of americas leaders is the God of the Bible.
Truth4u
I fill ya. I try and spread the Gospel and some time I’m looked at like I’m nuts and very crazy. That’s what every one said about me trying to learn them how to prep. Was a crazy person at that time also, until this virus lie came out.. Then I have been asked more about prepping then ever before. so I know in my heart that I’m on the right path. Back to PRE or POST. if it’s pre then we have about 2 maybe 3 yrs before we go up in the clouds. if it’s post then after the antichrist reveals him self as the so called great savior. you can only learn people that want to learn. so don’t waste your time on the hard core nonbelievers, GOD will deal with them him self. but still spread the Gospel and let the ears hear and the the seed will be planted and for the believers just water there seed and watch it grow. keep up GODS work and let even your enemy know that GOD is love.
Praise the Lord…
William Bratrud
Thank you so very much for all that you have done over your life time in spreading the Gospel. I think {we believe the same thing} that there will be a post trib. and what I see in this we will not fill GODS wrath but we well fill the antichrists wrath in the tribulations. and then up we go just before JESUS comes down. We have to be up there with JESUS in the clouds so we can come down and fight with our savior. But yes we are going thru so much hardship at this time.
GOD said it in the Holy Bible that satan will come to KILL, STEAL and DESROY… he is doing just that…
Please, I ask every one come to know Jesus, he is and was sent here for us to save GODS Holy Children.
But you do have free will to not believe in him. so sad if you do not do just that.
Good article, lots of info, thoughtful w/o going off the rails on NWO conspiracy garbage etc…
The world economy is in a new place and nobody knows what’s next, uncertainty is tough to deal with.
Can’t stop myself from saying, instead of a Bible in my preps I’m including an extra roll of toilet paper, lot more useful to me.
Well, with all do respect for a fellow prepper, If you don’t read the Bible you better take that extra roll! Cause when the Prophecies from the book of revelation start rolling out your gonna need it!
Luke 21
And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draws near.
One point on the whole End Of Days commentary that everyone seems to have forgotten is that it won’t begin until the Jewish Temple is reestablished on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. There are plans to build a New Temple in the works right now. The tools for the sacrifices have been made, priests are being trained, blueprints have been drawn up, and there is a breeding program for the red heifer that is needed for the dedication ceremony. The only thing lacking is the space to put the building.
If an agreement can be reached between the Moslems who have taken over the Temple Mount and the New Sanhedrin, the building still has to be erected, dedicated and opened for public worship before the Antichrist can show up to declare himself a god.
If the Temple is under construction, that will be the signal to all who have read the Scripture to make their plans and to “head for the mountains”. Because once the Antichrist takes control of the Temple and makes his blasphemous claim to godhood, the Abomination of Desolation, it will be too late to run. That will be the signal for the bloodbath to begin.
Personally, I think we still have a few years before this happens, but not more than ten and maybe as little as five.
You make some good points, Kit. Personally I also believe that there is something really nasty on the horizon for us. This so-called pandemic seems to be a lead up to that event or events. Unfortunately no one knows exactly when it will happen. Does it not say in the bible that when it happens it will come upon us as a thief in the night? Just look at all the craziness happening in the financial markets and figure that this CAN NOT be sustainable in the long term. Driven by our greed. And our collective hubris. That will be our downfall. Our epitaph. There seem to be a number of “bubbles” going on right now and all they’re going to need to burst is a small pinprick. A catalyst if you will. A small event that we couldn’t have foreseen that will bring it all crashing down. The bubbles I’m interested in are the housing bubble, the currency bubble and the elephant in the room. The stock market bubble. The biggest and most dangerous bubble of all right now. When it goes down there’s going to be a lot of people again jumping out of windows as happened in the last great depression. People misunderstand me, Kit, as far as an ultimate being in the universe is concerned which we have chosen to call “God”. I can’t fault people for believing in it but I’m of the opinion that it COULD exist but there is no empirical proof to prove its existence. You either have the faith to believe in it or you don’t. People will believe what they believe and if their beliefs are challenged it takes them out of their comfort zone and then they react with anger and outrage. Above all I believe in myself and know that it will be up to me, not anyone else, to determine if I make it through the maze and get the piece of cheese at the end. Whatever form it may take. Stay safe. Stay informed. Be aware of what’s going on around you and be prepared to act on a moment’s notice if necessary. I sincerely wish you all the best.
Do not take me wrong…I believe in GOD AND THE POWER OF PRAYER!!!?
But I also believe that we the people of America must become as independent of other countries as possible. If we didn’t learn how being dependent upon other countries like China then we are destined to continue to be their Trade Slaves! We must become what we once were a Manufacturing and Producer Nation and not just a consumer nation. The CEO’s, our elected Official and Ourselves are to blame for OUTSOURCING America Jobs because of our greed!!! We have put the very lives of our citizens in jeopardy because we rely on countries like China for the raw chemicals and ingredients that are needed for manufacturing our medication our computer chips our fuels etc!!! We need to become an INDEPENDENT AMERICA AGAIN… World trade is find but our total dependency on other countries is NOT!!!
George Washington warned the country about foreign entanglements. Somewhere around Good Ole Teddy Roosevelt, we started to think that we should build an empire like the folks in the old countries were doing. That didn’t work out well for them and empire building has not worked out well for us either.
Eisenhower warned us against the Industrial-Military complex and we again ignored his advice. If anyone knew of the dangers of that combination it was Eisenhower. We had no more business being involved in Korea, Bosnia or any the other places that Armin named. When we fought the Barbary pirates we didn’t try to remake them into a democracy. We went in kicked butt and told them like Ahhnold that we would be back if they didn’t shape up.
Why do we have bases in South Korea? Aren’t they capable after 50+ years of training of defending themselves against a fourth world country? Why do we have bases in Japan? They re capable of defending themselves. There is no reason for us to be there. Why do we have bases in Europe? If the Germans and French and Italians can’t get along enough to defend themselves against the Russians then maybe they ought to learn to speak Russian. Arrgghhh. I don’t want to get started.
@WB
The question asked was; Why Is The Dollar Losing Its Power? And Should We Be Concerned? And that’s the question I addressed. You’re the ones that went off on a tangent discussing whether some mythical figure still loves us and cares about us. Any discussion about God and religion is an exercise in futility as the one side can’t prove it exists and the other can’t prove it does. In the end the bible is just a book like any other and I suspect a general template for what happens when a society’s spiritual advancement lags far behind it’s technological advancements. Which is the case today. Most of the bible can’t be taken literally. Any thinking person will realize that most of it is symbolic and metaphorical. Ask the hard questions when you’re reading it. If you want to discuss god and religion go somewhere else. This isn’t the venue to do it. Stick to the subject matter. I’m not interested in your personal beliefs.
To whom it my concern:
I guess this must be for “ALL” that want to hear more then just what the article is about.
I my self will talk about any thing that I fill I want to say in my post about the article and add what I see fit to post. If I don’t agree with your post and say some thing about it, don’t get pissed. Maybe answer back. What do you mean and then let them explain what they mean about what you wrote. So please let us say and post with confidence that some one won’t get pissed and start to cry about some one that says something about what you have posted or any one else including my self…
LCC said it BEST of all. We can Agree and Disagree.
Thank you all for you opinion in your post…KEEP on posting your opinion… 1st amendment still stands here also…
If there is no answer back. please give it time for a reply…
Not Interested.
Go some where else.
REALY…
I DON”T THINK SO…
I’m all for everybody having room to include religion in these discussions, I’m just amazed and a little amused that a simple article on economics sets off such a storm among all the amateur eschatologists. SHTF does not mean God’s Judgement is at hand, high inflation, 25% unemployment, and President Harris are not signs anywhere near as meaningful as the dragon sweeping 1/3 of the stars from heaven. Maybe I’ll pack a Berkey Go Filter instead of extra t.p.?
Judge Holden
I’m just amazed at the one’s that are scared to hear or even talk about GOD or JESUS and the “amatures” that want to say no one can say as they wish with out some one running there mouth about the post.
Remember, only GOD is in control, “not us”. as you can see. This article that we are reading and posting on, dose include GOD. Just look at america today with out GOD.
Good luck with that TP
At 3:22 this morning GOD put this in my heart.
All American money has the words that say.
(IN GOD WE TRUST) printed or stamped on it. That’s why this post started this way because the arthur left out GOD in his article…
CAN’T Argue about that…
Look america is going to fall. There are more humans that hate GOD then there is that love him.
Just look at the perverted crap on any tv or u-tube on any air way. Men laying with men and women laying with women, children being turned in to freaks because there parents think it’s cool to screw there kids mind up. It’s just sick that this is going on.
GOD will not save america it’s to far gone to save. Sence this pervert has been in office and the demons that he brought with him, they have opened the gates of Hell.
Sick ass world and GOD will Not stand for this any more. The time is near…
man I hope y’all are ready, because HE is coming back with Fire.
May GOD have MERCY on your SOUL…
To armin, then you shut up as well because I don’t want to know your personal beliefs. While we are on the subject why don’t we all just shut up and not comment on anything. It’s called having a conversation, you know discussion.
Armin:
You’re right about the warning that the “Day if the Lord cometh as a thief in the night”, and that no one knows the exact time.
My opinion is that there will be an economic disaster of some sort very soon. There are too many factors pointing to it to ignore, not the least of which is the Fed printing up scads of money for which there is no backing in gold or silver. This is leading to inflation, and from what I’ve been reading, it’s likely to be on a scale like we’ve never seen in this country. Combined with the continuation of chronic shortages as a result of the covid shutdowns as well as the hacking that our government seems powerless to prevent that disrupts the supply chain, it’s going to be a real mess. Inflation could go as high as twenty percent, according to some articles.
ZeroHedge has some excellent articles on the subject, and here is a link to one from AltMarket. This one is very disturbing, but we all should read it.
https://alt-market.us/cyberpolygon-will-the-next-globalist-war-game-lead-to-another-convenient-catastrophe/
The bottom line is that, while our eschatological digression has been interesting (to some, anyway), those who have pointed out that it really isn’t relevant to the topic also have a good point.
We really need to refocus on the subject and share our best information about the inevitable economic mess looming on the horizon, because it will effect us all.
I would therefore advise everyone to stock up on necessities as much as possible, and to focus on foodstuffs, medicines and consumables before the prices go up too much more.
Buying mostly imported items that you know you will need going forward isn’t a bad idea, either. If you know that you need to replace your toaster, or that you will need a new pair of shoes, buy them now if you can. Do your back to school, Christmas and Birthday shopping as soon as possible. Check yard sales and thrift stores for things like clothing, storage totes, kitchen ware, etc.that you can stockpile for family and friends.
Some of the articles that I have read claim that we’ll be seeing up to twenty percent inflation by next year, so this has the potential to be very serious.
There’s nothing much more I can add to your post, Miss Kitty, other than to say I agree with most of what you have said. Most of us here can see some kind of an economic disaster looming on the horizon for the reasons you have stated here and for other factors I’ve enumerated in my response to a post by LCC. We just don’t know the “when” of it. I will share something personal with you, Miss Kitty. Just between the two of us. 😉 I’m taking the future seriously enough that I’m withdrawing as much money from my bank accounts as I can before they lock the doors and shut the ATM’s down. They’re making it more and more difficult to withdraw our money from our bank accounts. I was even quite worried that the crisis would be upon us before I had a chance to do so. Still keeping my fingers crossed. I do think your figure of 20% inflation is on the low side and I see something closer to hyperinflation once the whole system collapses. Right now it’s being held together by duct tape and ceiling wax. Hopefully that doesn’t make me a fear monger but I’m very pessimistic about our collective economic future. Everyone should really take your advice about stocking up as much as possible NOW before the prices really start to get out of control. We ain’t seen nothin’ yet. The worst is yet to come. If you all are able to prep as much as you can now do it intelligently. Have a plan what you can afford to buy weekly. If you have a little money left over now is the time to buy the shoes. The clothing. The blankets, etc. Miss Kitty is a very smart lady with good advice and you should listen to her. The only things going up right now are commodities and if you have a little extra money to invest at this late juncture it may be a good idea for you to talk to your bank and see if it’s worth going into something like a commodities ETF. But talk with someone you can trust before you take the plunge. The stock market is pretty well at the top right now. Extremely overvalued, overleveraged and everyone is buying on margin. A disaster just waiting to happen. I do wish all of you the very best for the future.
@Miss KItty
I had a look at the link you so kindly provided, Miss Kitty. and as far as I’m concerned the article written by Brandon Smith is spot on. He’s not the only one saying this. There are a plethora of websites out there that basically say the same thing. The elite HAVE badly miscalculated. They have really screwed up and don’t know how to fix it. They HAVE painted themselves into a corner and don’t know what to do. This may make them brash and desperate which may make them even more dangerous. They should all be lynched. Publically. And left to swing in the breeze until they rot and fall off of their tether hooks. To them this is nothing more than a game. The world to them is a chessboard. And we are the expendable pawns with which they do as they will. They care not one whit for us. What they don’t want us to realize is that there are many more of us than there are of them and THEY need US way more than we need THEM. They tweak something here and a war starts again. Tweak something else and you have horrible flooding killing thousands. Tweak something else and you have drought killing thousands. Or a monster hurricane. Or an unusual number of category 5 tornadoes or worse tearing up the landscape. It never ends. The rulers of this planet are the most evil and demonic bunch you could ever come across. It’s their time to be brought to justice. It’s almost as if they’re not human. Or anti-human. They deserve nothing less than the most prolonged and painful death. So horrible in fact that they eventually yearn and scream for release. I would be happy to be the one to keep tightening their screws and to hear them beg for release. I wouldn’t give it to them until the very last possible moment. We have everything we need on this planet to make into a paradise were it not for the evil pervading our present day society. Maybe it’s always been like this. We just weren’t as aware of it as we are today. We can’t keep going on like this. We’re destroying ourselves. Change MUST come. And if any of the elites keep track of websites like this, this is my message for them. I’m coming for you sons of a bitches and if I find you bastards it will not go well for you.
SHORT & SWEET…I TOO BELIEVE IN GOD!!! But the next time that you go outside on a clear night take a pair of binoculars and look up into the heavens…do you see all those beautiful planets, stars and beautiful galaxies that go on seemingly for ever… How can there not be other life in all of those billions of galaxies? They are not demons they are LIFE… maybe they look different than we do but never the less they are LIFE…possibly creat by OUR GOD also. Please people don’t keep your heads in the sand LOOK UP AND SEE THE VASTNESS OF SPACE AND THE REAL POSSIBILITY THAT MANY OTHER LIFE FORMS EXIST…WE ARE NOT ALONE!!! The Earth is not flat as even today some people believe! We have many problems here on Earth but eventually we will over come them hopefully! I believe that we are going to finally learn the truth…THERE IS OTHER LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE AND THAT WE ARE NOT ALONE…THANK GOD!!!
M G:
Yes we are not alone, there is a Heaven and those people are out there, but not on any plant, but waiting in Heaven for the great battle that is to come.
THANK GOD…
The truth will be seen coming down from the sky.
Don’t fall for this crap that the demons are bringing out. It’s a big fat LIE.
and yes they are demons. They are the fallen Angels. The 1/3 of Heaven, they were DECEIVED by LUCIFER, AKA the shining star.
Don’t be DECIVED. Keep the Faith…
@Mountain gator
I have to agree with you, mountain gator. Our scientists say that there are a 100 billion stars in this itty bitty little galaxy of ours. After all we’re “only” 😉 100,000 light years end from end and in relative terms that IS a small galaxy. And there are trillions of galaxies. To think that we are the only habitable planet even in this one galaxy has got to be the height of arrogance and stupidity. And lack of imagination. The life doesn’t have to be like us but nonetheless life. Although if it’s a water planet like earth then life on that planet could be very similar to ours. Maybe even that the reptilian life form became the dominant species. Anything is possible and the possibilities are endless. If we were able to view the universe from a far enough distance away eventually all the galaxies and groupings of galaxies would be nothing more then specks of light in an endless panorama against a background of absolute black.
@Stu
You misunderstand, Stu. The only point that I was trying to make was that we should try and stay on subject. Our personal religious beliefs are just that. Personal beliefs and should be kept to ourselves. And really have no place on this page when we’re supposed to be discussing whether we should be worried about the state of the dollar and the economy in general. Most times when I went off subject I got heck from the rest of the people on the page and I learned my lesson. I’m all for intelligent discussion but let’s try and stay on subject instead of going so far afield. Whether god exists or not or whether the bible is true or not is irrelevant. Those kinds of discussions are better left to a religious website and doesn’t answer the question asked at the beginning of this article. In the end it’s up to us to save ourselves from a bad situation not some questionable entity whose existence can’t be empirically proven.
@ Armin
GOD doses exists. You will see him…
I find it sad that you gave up when those people heck you. I wish that you would have stood up to them and gave them a HECK full back. But now by not being strong in the face of criticism you now HECK the one’s that want “you” to hear and read the truth.
I’m sorry that you fill that way. 🙁
Perhaps Claude can do a special Apocalypse column for us religious types in the future.
But I do have to agree with Armin on this – we DID digress from the topic, as we often do, and we should all make the effort to better stay on point going forward. Myself included.
Whether or not you believe preparing your soul for the coming trials that I’m sure we will all be facing is of equal importance to making sure your material needs are also met, one thing that I believe we can all agree upon is that every prepper should take steps now to ensure that we can ride out this latest crisis.
Don’t forget that the psychological aspect of prepping needs to be addressed as well. It’s going to be very difficult for us to deal with seeing the evening news showing bread lines, food riots, starving children and the prices climbing with no end in sight. Of course, each political party will blame the other, and the partisan bickering will become even more bitter. Getting as well prepared now to deal with these challenges and the fear that they will bring as we can will go a long way to enable us to help care for our families as well as ourselves.
Remember, you can’t help others if you haven’t secured your own position first. That is why you put your own oxygen mask on before trying to assist others.
Folks: We thought inflation was bad during Jimmie Carter’s stay in the white shack. I think we ain’t seen nothing — that is, those of us who are old enough to remember the inflation of the 70s. Remember 15% interest on CDs at S&Ls? Remember major corporations not paying invoices until the last possible moment because the money in the bank earned more interest than the 2% late fee on the invoice? Remember the price of a loaded new car going from $5,000 to $20,000? When I was of car driving age a brand new Cadillac, the creme de la creme of the American car market, fully loaded with every automotive device known to mankind at that time went out the door for $3500. My first four bedroom, two-bath house went for $8600. My monthly payment, including principal, interest and tax & insurance impounds was $63.00 a month. I just looked up Kelly Blue Book on my 18 year old Honda Ody. Retail for that car in poor condition is $4500. I didn’t bother to look at higher categories because the tranny is exhibiting funky behavior. The 03 Ody had a funky tranny and it looks as if mine is developing funk. Maybe I should hang onto it because by the end of 2023 it may be worth $10,000 in “New Bills”. That is what I fear the most, either a recall of present currency with the issuance of “New Bills” or switch to a government issued EBT card which will be the only legal currency accepted at major retailers and on line. Small Mom and Pop stores may accept gold and silver but generally, use of such White Supremacist items will be strictly forbidden under penalty of having to undergo racial normalizing sessions.
Miss kitty
Some times GOD takes over and we should not fight against him.
You never know who needs to hear the word of GOD. What some one says just may save there life when they read the post.
Please let GOD say and do as HE see’s fit. Yes even here in this site..
Some one told me once, that when we open a door with out him there is a dragon behind the door. BUT when we let him open the door, there he will be to let you in.
We have to keep him in every thing we do. If we do not then the dragon will consume us with his fire.
Just look at the world with out him, the devil is in the house and there to destroy it.
What Armin wrote, help me so much to get passed some of my problems. with out even knowing it. .I’m thankful for that.
love not hate
PS: miss Tiddy said meow… lol
I do miss ya’ll dearly…
Miss kitty
sorry:
correction on my post to you.
Lets please let GOD do as he sees fit.
You are so wright about, if you are not good in your life how can you help some one else with there’s.
No mask first, then no help for other. I like that.
Thank you….
@red ant
I appreciate your kind comments red ant. I really don’t like getting into these kinds of discussions because generally they lead nowwhere. Maybe I shouldn’t share personal stuff with you but one last comment. There was a time when I was a true seeker. Very early on in my life. Heavy duty spiritual stuff. I believed in God. I believed that we have an immortal soul. I believed that we have more than one lifetime. My mum was EXTREMELY spiritual. Almost to the point of fanaticism. And really what you would call very psychic. She just knew stuff before it happened. Maybe I should have been more concerned. But in our household that was normal for me growing up. When my mum passed away it was the most horrible time in my life. My wife and I had separated at that point. I was an only child and I have no relatives here. Because of her extreme spirituality I expected SOME sign from her when she passed over just to let me know that she was ok and there was something for me to look forward to. NOTHING! And that’s when I lost my faith and now think god and the bible and religion and everything connected with it is total bullshit. I really am sorry to think like that. I know it’s horrible. I would really LIKE to see the face of god when I pass over but I really don’t have a lot of hope for that happening. I really don’t care what people believe in just don’t try and force your beliefs down my throat. I have respect for what people believe in. I really do. That’s their business. Just have respect for my decision not to believe. One of the states in the US has a motto that goes something like “show me”. If you believe in something then “show me” and prove to me that your beliefs are valid. If you can’t then your beliefs are invalid and you’re going on faith. Which to me is a type of insanity. I don’t believe in faith. I believe in empirical data. I hope this helps and hasn’t made it worse.
@ Armin
First I want to say I’m so sorry for your loses of your Mum. When I read your post it made me cry and my heart fell in to a heaviness for you. I just lost my mother Feb of this year, my sister murdered her for money and her assets, of about 3/4 of a million dollars. Did not even get to bury her she had it all done before I could get there or even know about it, not even a good by. If I did not have GOD and JESUS in my life, I know I would of went and hurt her very very badly. Yes nothing happened to her, got away with murder. But I know she will not get away with it. She will stand in judgment for what she did. She is very evil. Try and live with that. She is on face book saying horrible things about me and my brother. it’s hard and it hurts me so.
BUT the reason your mum was so spiritual was because she had a connection with GOD and JESUS and you saw it the whole time you were with her and then when she left and went to be with the Load, you were looking for a sign. As you wrote. But the sign was there with you all that time thru her life. Some times we ask or want to know something and sometimes there is no answer, so we give up on wanting to see that sign. Then time goes on and then nothing and time goes on more. I will say the sign that you wanted was there all a long. Thru her. Remember it’s GOD’S way not our way and we don’t understand GOD’S way, because we are earth bound and until we get to Heaven we can’t understand his way. Your mum is in Heaven and wants you to be there also with her singing and praising GOD and what a glorious day that will be.
I Prayed to GOD and asked if he would help me say the right things to you. Don’t hate on me for this.
I don’t know your life But I do know GOD and JESUS. I felt that I was not wanted by any one here on this earth. When I was born I was just born. just another boudin to my mom and then put in a children’s home when I was 2 yrs of age. I do remember that time even being so young. Later after my mom died or you know. I found out thru my brother that me and him were going to be left behind and my mom was going to take only my sister. My grand ma told this to my brother. Well I also found out that my dad is not my dad, so I think that’s why I was shunned by the family. I was just a product of lust. they divorced when I was just 6 months old. Later in my life I felt like I was not good enough for GOD and felt that when I got to heaven I would be rejected by JESUS and the others that are there in heaven. It weigh heavy on me. I was angry with every thing on earth and wanted to destroy every thing that I could. Drugs, drinking, women, and just did not care. I over dosed on LSD and put a gun to my head and wanted to blow my brains out. A hellish life style. BUT It got so bad that I fell to my knees one day and cried out to GOD to send me some one that would love me and then, I meet the love of my life and for 33 yrs know we been married and have not messed around on her, but I still fight the flesh and the devil still hates me and try’s to destroy our love. But I have defeated him thru my savior. I’m telling you this so you will see that it’s okay and GOD is in control and he knows best, not me nor even you… But he dose.
Armin,
If your mum could show you heaven, don’t you think that she would, but GOD won’t let her because he want’s you to look back at her life that you had with her and see the love that GOD gave her and you as well. Your mum is watching you right know thru your angel that GOD has appointed to you. Your angel reports back to her and lets her know if you are okay or in destress. I hope that you have a change of heart about this that you battle with. Please let that go, that the devil has put on you, to blind you from the love of Her and of GOD and JESUS.
Remember the devil hates every one including him self and he hates GOD with a fury and wants to see you and every one else to be as miserable as he is. You know that the devil loves that you fell this way, he knows that it is keeping you from looking and believing in GOD and JESUS, he is happy and you are sad. Change that to day and Rejoice with your mum even right know and even until the time of the rapture or the time of death. Don’t let the devil win.
Pleases don’t hate on me for this that I have said. GOD put all this in my heart for me to show you that he is REAL and HE dose love you and wants you to be in Heaven with the rest of his children. Yes your mum is a child of GOD. WE all are in the eye’s of GOD his little children.
I want to ask you to do something for me. Take a picture of your mum and have a real good heart felt talk with her. I know she would love that. I so much wish that I could see my mom, but I know that I will thru my Faith in GOD and MY SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST.
I don’t want to shove anything down any ones throat. I to have changed, But still a worrier for CHRIST..
Empirical data or Faith just trust in him, He’s the very reason that you were born to your mum. She asked for only you to be her child and her GOD gave you to her. Remember her love that she had in GOD and her faith in him. Just close your eyes and fill her love, she’s there by you all the time.
I will leave you with this. The devil has been hiding and keep you from the signs that you seek, rebuke the devil and you will get to see all that he has hidden from you. If you do not wish to, then HE is the ‘WINNER”, {not YOU.}
If you wish to write me back please just know that I’m here to help, not destroy. The devil is doing that, NOT GOD..
Your Brother in CHRIST… love not hate.
PS: you helped me as much as I am trying to help you, and Thank you for that.
To Red Ant
Thank you for your amazing message to me. It’s appreciated more than I can say. I don’t cry much anymore. I’m all cried out from the time my mum passed away but your message made me cry again. Tears are running down my face as I’m writing this and the screen is all blurry. 😉 And I don’t hate ANYONE, red ant, except the ruling elite. They are beyond evil and as far as I’m concerned; demonic. Their day is coming and when it does I hope they get everything they deserve. A thousand times more than what they’ve done to us. As I was reading through your post it actually made sense to me and gave me some peace. It’s strange that you used the phrase; “earth bound”. It was the exact same phrase she used to describe her life. I know she didn’t want to be “earth bound” anymore and just hung on because of me until she was sure I would be alright. I am so sorry to hear about the loss of YOUR mum so recently and not by natural means. I didn’t realize that children could be so evil. You and your sister are complete opposites. Her crime against your mum will not go unpunished. Unless she’s a complete psychopath her crime will wear on her over time and destroy her from within. I am so sorry to hear that you’ve had such a tough life. Must have been hellish. But you still turned out pretty good by the sound of it. You are so lucky to have found the love of your life. I don’t know where mine is. I wish I had that special woman in my life but I don’t know where she is or how to find her. And I know you’re going to say; why not go to church. As far as I’m concerned even the church has become corrupt and apostate in these times. My time for all that may be over as I’m getting pretty old. I’ve had so many operations that I have the body of a 90 year-old man but my mind is still quite sharp. Again; just to be clear, red ant, I don’t hate anyone and certainly not you. It seems you are the messenger that I needed. You went to so much time and effort to write that wonderful message to me and I do sincerely appreciate it. I will try as you have suggested and try talk to her through her picture even though I realize it’s only a picture and she is gone. I have nothing to lose at this point. I NEVER disrespected my mum but tried to help her as much as I could. I was her primary caregiver and that was not easy but I did it out of love for her. I kind of got “stuck” with her but that’s a whole other story. In retrospect it was probably the best thing that could have happened to me as I learned SO much from her. I know she loved me. You are an amazing person, red ant, to try and help a complete stranger. And you have. If I’ve helped you a little then you’ve helped me 10X as much. I do sincerely wish you all the very best. You are a good person. But I honestly believe that there are some very tough times ahead for us all. I think it says something in Revelations like; that in the end times that it would become so horrible that men’s hearts would fail or something to that effect. And I do believe that we are living in the end times and that the four horsemen are already here. This earth could be such a paradise if we would just try to get along and stop killing each other. Why is it so difficult for us to get along with each other? We may have a different skin colour or beliefs or have grown up in a different culture but we’re all people and should all be treated the same. But the killing keeps on unabated. The weapons keep getting bigger and better. We’re literally living under the sword of Damocles. It’s almost as if this earth is ruled by some very evil force. But nothing lasts forever and even this will pass after we go through the valley of the shadow of death. Most of us are serious preppers here. Just try as best as you can to be prepared for what’s coming. Food and water are the most important. Even though many of you are Christians here just be prepared to defend yourselves against the ravening horde that may descend upon you to take what’s yours and do harm against those you love. As difficult as it might be for you to take another’s life. Even though I don’t believe in much I do believe in the ten commandments and use them as a guide to live my life as best I can. Thank you so much for your message, red ant. I think it was what I needed. You’re an amazing person and I wish you nothing but the best for the future. And I apologize to all of you for once again going so far off subject. I know. I’m a jerk.
@ Armin
O my heart leaped with JOY and I sang praise to GOD when I read your post. The JOY on this day will last a life time in my heart for you. PRAISE GOD and thank you JESUS.
Yes there is some really bad things that are coming and it is going to be like never before on this earth. Not even in the time of NOHA. will it be so bad, things that will shack the earth to it’s core. Literally… God is sending his son to claim his harvest, His children that us. I’M trying to spread his Gospel as much as I can even in the face of death, I will not stop, nor will I give up. I have been hard core on some people on here about not believing in GOD or wanting to hear about him and some good arguments with some. But my heart is becoming softer when I tell people about the love that GOD has for us and what JESUS has done for us also.
One word of the hate that we deal with here on earth. devil, satan, lucifer, or the shining star. You pick they all mean the same. HE is the reason we HATE. NOT GOD…
I will say when you started to say some things that I was reading in your post I wanted to blast you out of the site, just like so many others. BUT GOD put it in my heart that if I am sweet as honey I will bring so much more to Him and look at the honey that flowed out of me, to you and the love that we both have and are filling today. O REJOYS in HIS love. PRAIES YOU GOD.
Please don’t go to church to try and find the right women. I know now that you will find someone to spend the rest of your life with. GOD just told me he will help you, because you are a changed person today. The devil had your eye’s blinded and did not want you to have or in joy the love of a women or even life its self. He liked you being miserable. BUT today he is so pissed at me he will bring hell against me for what GOD has done for you, I did nothing ,just a willing vessel.
Understand that he can’t do anything against me for I am so much more the he is and much much stronger in my faith in CHRIST. SO I tell the devil you have no authority here. LEAVE.
I will pray with out ceasing for GOD to bring you, your love. Now that you have gotten raid of the devil, now you can work on making your life as it should be, with love.
I will say that GOD was not going to give you a gift like that because you were not in the right frame of mind at that time. You would of messed it up and for you first wife. Her lose.
I truly fill that the time is right but please I’m not GOD so don’t hold me to it’ He might have other things for you to do.
But show the love that a women wants to see and come to JESUS again and give GOD “ALL” the glory. For the love will come, like the flood. Hope you can handle it. It’s going to be big and wonderful for you.
Now go forth and receive the blessing that GOD has been waiting to give you, for a long time now. Get up and go out and receive the blessing of our AWSOM GOD has for you. Yes dust off you old self and look at the new you. I am so so so so happy for you.
Keep on prepping and don’t take no SHIT from any one, when the time comes for we will be caught up in the clouds and be with our MIGHTY SAVIOR. Keep your eye’s on JESUS and not the BATTLE.
Arnim, I have so much in joyed talking with you. keep it up.
Remember don’t go back to the old life. Your a new man.
Stand “TALL” and stay strong in your faith. I now in my heart that you will do just that. “TAKE BACK” what the devil has stole from you and rejoice in the love of GOD the FATHER and come back to him. He loves you just as my self, my new brother in Christ. I know mum is smiling today also…
Remember I’m nothing but a old Texas country guy that loves GOD and JESUS.
Take care in your new life brother. Hey if you stumble don’t worry, just remember you a have a leaning post, ME.
red ant…
PS: if any one dose not like us talking or going off the subject. Tough shit get over it. A soul was in need. This was way more important then the article that we were discussing. Thank ya’ll for understanding…:)
To red ant,
You are an amazing, wonderful person and I thank you so much for wanting to help me. And in Texas of all places. Who would of thought. 🙂 I know that a lot of northern Europeans immigrated to Texas early on. Don’t know the date right now. That’s probably why you have so many beautiful, blonde blue-eyed women in Texas. I didn’t realize that Americans could be this awesome. I’ve heard all the bad press about Americans and since I have no American friends I believed it. You’ve turned my beliefs around 180 degrees about the American people. I feel very honoured and privileged that you took a chance on me. I think that your message is what I needed most at this point in my life. I am definitely not a crying person. I’m a man in constant pain and I’ve learned to live with it. I’ve never had this reaction before when reading ANYONE’S post on a website. You may not believe this but it’s the truth. I don’t like to lie unless it’s for the greater good. Such as saving another’s life. I’m loath to admit this but when I read what you’ve written the tears started to flow again and I don’t know why and I can’t stop. It’s maddening. I don’t want to lean on you too much, red ant. I am a man in my seventies and should be able to stand on my own two feet by now. In this lifetime I’ve experienced MOST of what a person can experience but there are some paths I refuse to go down. And for whatever reason I’ve made most of the mistakes and bad decisions that a person can make in one lifetime. I’m not a particularly stupid person so I don’t know why I did some of the things I did. Hopefully it’s all about clearing out a crap load of karma. Getting it out in one fell swoop, so to speak. Like tearing off a bandage quickly. Short term pain. Long term gain. And hopefully after this there WILL be another lifetime and chance to make amends. It would be so nice to meet some of the people on this page in a next life. Apparently we go through life in karmic groups and those groups can change. The bible says that we have an immortal soul. So it shouldn’t be able to die. if I want to put it in to scientific terms our scientists say that energy can never be created nor destroyed it just changes form. Like water changing into either steam or ice. Same water just a different form of it. I cannot convey to you my utter appreciation of the time and energy you took to “speak” with me. I am SO glad you decided to be sweet as honey. Look at the heights it took us to. An object lesson for us all not just for me alone. Again, THANK YOU SO MUCH!! If there really is a god out there then I hope that you and your family are blessed for a thousand generations. Blessed be!
@Armin
I would love to talk more and more with you Armin. Can you make fake e-mail and I will do the same and then we can exchange our real e-mails and then get rid of the fake one. That way the evil ones won’t have our good one. We might be taking up to much space on here.
I will make a fake account and put it on here you do the same.
We can still talk on this site also would enjoy that also.
I will get back to you Monday with a e-mail that you can contact me on. I use Yahoo so maybe you can also use Yahoo. Don’t know if you can use that type over there. Just let me know if you would like to do that. If not that is okay also.
Well that’s the reason that I make my own judgement on how I see other people in different lands. Remember satan wants us to be dvided so he can keep GOD’S children from the truth. My wife is native american. She was talking to a guy in Egypt and she told him that she’s a Indian, which means native american. He was blown away because he said in there land the schools teached that there were not Indians around any more and the white man killed all of them. Now this is in today’s time. That’s why we can’t trust any and I mean any form of government of any kind. They are liares and they love satan and fallow him. So tell every one that there are good GODLY people every where in the usa. Don’t let satan make your choses for you, let God do that.
My heart is still jumping for joy for you. I prayed for you last night and this morning. For you to find love. Will not stop.
Yes even GOD can use a old guy like me to do his work for him. Funny I know. But It’s GODS way not mine. He rules all in my life. He has filled my storage house up with more then I can handle and the gifts that have been coming are still coming so much.
When you love GOD he will love you trillions times more. That’s what he wants more then any thing is for you to lean on him not on your self.
I tell GOD the creator of all that is good that he can lean on me if he needs to that I am here for him. Just as I am here for you. Also. If there is any one that needs me for the right reason I am here for them as well.
Well I am going to go look at RV’s for camping and buy me a new one. Just sold a extra house I owed. The reason that GOD is so giving to me and my wife is that GOD knows that I have nothing With out him… Praise GOD and Thank you GOD. Give to him that is his and he will give you what is his. We need for nothing during these hard times and the winter storm that we had. Not one thing went wrong with HIS house, not one. They say we got our asses kicked but GODS House, Did not. He protects what is his.
Let me know if you want to do that or if you can even do that.
Have a good day.
I was almost going to suggest the same thing, red ant, but I was afraid that it would be viewed as inappropriate. I’m a very proper person. I know more than people think I know. And that’s not arrogance or pride or anything like that. I was always the seeker. Especially when I was younger. I had soooo many questions and so few answers. I questioned everything. Took nothing for granted. Accumulated sooo much knowledge and I still have access to it. You’re right about that my friend. The government is NOT our friend. They have their own agenda. I wouldn’t mind having someone like you in my corner. There is one hellacious battle going on inside of me. My problem is I question everything. Especially what’s written in the bible. There are so many contradictions and things that make no logical sense to me. Maybe that can be a starting point for us once I give you my expendable e-mail address. Which is tiberioustrex@rogers.com. When you have a chance just send a test message to that e-mail address and then I’ll switch to my primary address. Hopefully you can learn as much from me as I can from you. I don’t want this to be all one-sided. I don’t want to either abuse you or use you. There’s needs to be an exchange of information. You may get angry with me sometimes because I WILL ask the “dumb” questions. My search right now is to determine the nature of god. Up until now no one has been able to give me a satisfactory answer. As an addendum you are so blessed to have been able to marry a native American woman. They are an amazing people that have lived in harmony with nature for thousands of years. We could have learned so much from them if we were just willing to stop and listen but instead we treated them like ignorant savages when we first met them. And that was our failing. Again, who has the better weapons usually wins the war. Many native American women are stunningly beautiful. Smart and tough. You are a very lucky man to have found someone like her and I’m sure she thinks the same of you. Be well.
Dearly Beloved, as a Christian, I rejoice to finally see such a lengthy discussion as this on the issues we should have been talking about but haven’t for decades. It grieves my hart to see that many of our brothers and sisters have been caught up in the bitter divisions over politicians and elections and many other issues that are so complicated to understand that many of us just give up and believe anything we are told. It is dreadful to watch as some of our most trusted leaders betray us in their pursuit of power and public acclaim. Many of our own church leaders are caught up in such a web of deceit they preach more politics than religious truth. It is more than disheartening to watch even our closest friends and family members are deceived and led to speak hatefully about those who happen to belong to a different party. Friends, neither the Republican nor Democratic Party are a gathering of saints nor unusual wisdom. It is wrong to allow ourselves to be provoked to hate Demon-rats or Re-dumb-licans. Millions in both parties read their bibles and try to make our nation a reflection of Christ’s admonition to love our neighbors as ourselves, and to do good, love mercy, and walk humbly before God, as well as follow common sense economic and financial policies. We just don’t have many leaders that reflect those interests Vastly more of us are Humanitarians than ever thought of being Socialists or Marxists, a fact that right wing extremists always overlook. Leftists, of course, have their own myths to pursue.
In my town, Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, and others decided to stop allowing ourselves to be manipulated into hating and fighting each other. Instead, we have weekly breakfasts that anyone and everyone can attend and openly discuss the issues that trouble them as friends who see some things differently. It has made a world of difference and helps us understand instead of hate each other. We just don’t allow ourselves to get angry or be taken in by lies. That used to be common among Americans before the deceivers took over. Sooner or later we are going to have to be more open minded and allow ourselves to be persuaded by sound arguments even when we don’t want to be if we are to survive as a strong, healthy nation. We can’t allow ourselves to accept lies as the truth just because someone tells us to and wants us to believe it. It is a lot easier to preserve a democracy than it is to restore it after it has been lost. Unfortunately, too many of us want a dictator who will make all those other guys do what we want them to do. Remember, those who create a dictatorship are soon enslaved therein themselves. It’s not democracy’s fault that we have too many laws and regulations. Better we should correct the laws and regulations. Right now it is possible to do that if we only decide to do that instead of engaging in a civil war.
Fred Allen Gibson:
Thanks for the lovely post….it made me smile to think that there is a place where this sort of common sense and camaraderie still prevails.
I should very much like to visit your town, but if you post the name then the “spoilers” may decide to show up and destroy what you all have built.
Nevertheless, it gives me hope that where there is one place where people get along there may be more, and perhaps the country isn’t as messed up as is presented by MSM…after all, they’ve been caught lying about everything else!
Mr. Fred Allen Gibson,
I have to go along 100% with Miss Kitty on this one. That is one heck of a post, sir, and it also gives me hope for the future to think that there are still people and communities like yourself out there. I am so glad you decided to come to this page and share. Respect, sir.
@ Fred Allen Gibson
Yes thank you for the post. It was in lightning. Glad that you and others have some people that will want that and push to keep that kind of life style around even in theses evil times.
But we still have to look in to the bible and see how GOD wants us to be in theses coming times. There are still good and nice places that you can live with out fear and they are getting smaller and smaller. None any where around me and don’t see any starting to form something nice to keep us sane. Look this earth is going to fall as time gose on and then after GOD sees fit he will destroy it and build a new earth for his children. There and only there GOD will be. Sounds all good but we better get right with GOD before the return of his son. Hope you are discussing that when ya’ll talk.
Just look at this G7 crap, nothing but Pure evil. Can’t y’all see that this is satan that is running this earth and GOD is watching how we react to this. Hell is coming and it’s going to kick a lot of lost souls asses. The majority will win and that majority is the sick minded and the perverted people that are trying to run this earth. Just look around, its in our faces that the in times are here. Yes we still have to live. But better be ready to face the majority. O and we will never be as we were, never again.
Well again thank you and glad that you have that.
Remember a neighbor is one that will be there in the time of need, not the one that will lie and steal from you. So be careful of the WOLF in sheep’s clothing.
PS: Good will become evil and evil will become good. That’s the earth today.
@Armin
Can’t get in to the e-mail. Yahoo will not except it.
Maybe a different choice. ????
We will never give up!!!!!!!!!
You can’t stop us satan. lol. 🙂
I’m very sorry to hear that red ant. There is no different choice. I KNOW it’s a valid e-mail. I just set it up especially for you. Just opened it up again to make sure it was still there and it is. Be careful when typing it out. Again it is T I B E R I O U S T R E X @ rogers.com. It’s all lower case without the spaces in between. In military alphabet it is tango, india, bravo, echo, romeo, india, oscar, uniform, sierra, tango, romeo, echo, x-ray. Just be careful when typing it in. It is a valid disposable e-mail not my primary e-mail. Yahoo runs the e-mail system for rogers so there shouldn’t be any problems. I have to agree with you 100%, red ant, that whatever you want to call them there are some very negative, evil forces at work on this planet. The latest manufactured crisis, this covid 19 virus, is nothing so much except about total control of us and dividing us even further. Now there are talks in the works by big pharma working in concert with the various governments to bring out a vaccination passport. Without it you can’t fly, go on a train, bus, ship. And maybe even further down the line they’ll bring out vaccination “papers” which you’ll have to carry on you all time, without which you’ll be banned from many activities and events. Maybe even going so far that if you don’t have these “documents” you won’t be able to buy food any more. I’ve also heard that they want us to take this vaccine against covid yearly. If you have a fairly good immune system you should be able to sail through covid without any problems. My concern with this so-called vaccine is that they brought it out in record time without any proper testing, especially long-term, and I have no idea what’s in there. Too many of us lined up like lemmings to receive this vaccine without asking the proper questions. There may even be some kind of nano technoloigy in there to really mess us up down the road. Maybe even radioactive tracers or some kind of advanced gps tech to keep track of us even more like they do with dogs and cats. And now they have us. We all have to die eventually and we shouldn’t be afraid of the death of the body. I still have a small glimmer of hope that our spirit (soul) survives the death of the body. I would rather live free or die, as the motto of New Hampshire goes, rather than be a guinea pig for the ruling elite. So give the e-mail another shot and if you can’t get into my secondary e-mail then give me your disposable e-mail address and I’ll send you a test message and then we can switch over to my primary e-mail address. Good luck! Looking forward to discussing religious and/or spiritual matters with you.
@ Armin
alwaysbigintexas@yahoo.com okay try this and then we will see if it will work.
Yes sir that c-19 is a bad deal and it was made in the lab. That rat liar faluci he and many others are the reason this crap is here. They have blood on there hands. Just wait this G7 world liars leaders they are getting ready for the big one. Say if they close down all ways to live by not having a vacs card or a c-19 passport. Then we go into survival mode. Have all bases covered and some that no one nose about. I just fill sorry for all of ya’ll over there. Can’t have no guns and cool stuff like us, but the little demon people are trying to take all of that. We will give them HELL… Man if I had to live over there in that kind of place, I would go nuts. Here, we go out back of the shop and blow crap up and shot our guns and go a little crazy. But we do work very hard and we play harder. We do pray before we eat together and pray after every meeting at work. To bad you can’t come to texas we would blow up the country side. We could go Hog Hunting. it’s wild they are trying to kill you so you do have to be fast or they will rip you apart or kill you LOL.. But what a rush. it’s fun to watch others running from them. Boy they are mean. Almost lost a couple finger one day, picking at a Old sow in the cage and then she came at me and almost got me, but I was to fast. Makes your heart beat very fast. Scary some times. you do have to carry a pistol with you, a big one is best. We could also go bow hunting wild Hogs, that’s on a different level. Then we would go noodling for big catfish in the river but you can get bit by something, just hope it a big cat fish. That’s fun when they bite you and then pull you under. got to be ready.
I’m not much on being proper, Hell, I don’t even know what proper means. But I do respect others and tip my hat to the lady’s in respect and will always open the door. Also you better take off your Hat when you enter in to some one else’s house. But don’t let me see you disrespect others, unless it’s called for, don’t hit a women or hurt kids. You will get your ASS beat, then you will look funny with my size 13 cowboy boot stuck in you back side.
See if my e-mail works.
Will have a chat later. Been a long day.
It’s too bad you’re having such trouble getting hold of me on my secondary e-mail. I’ll try yours and see if I can get hold of you. I had a friend of mine send a test message to that secondary e-mail and they had no problems so it’s something on your end. You sound like such a cool guy. I would really like to meet you and your wife in Texas. And blow shit up. LOL! I like Texans. You’re feisty. And you have a lot of northern European genes in you. Something we have in common. It’s not all bad up here but it is getting worse. Some moron just ran over a family of four Muslims and killed them just because they were Muslims. That’s going to be a big trial and I hope they lock that sob up and throw away the key. I also have most of my bases covered, red ant, and as long as I keep getting my pension I don’t have much to worry about. Don’t feel sorry for us Canucks, red ant, it’s not all bad. It’s a beautiful country. It’s huge. We are allowed to have guns just not hand guns. Or assault rifles. I have lots of ammo and lots of food so I won’t be that easy to take down. if worse comes to worse and I have no other choice I’ll try to take as many of them with me as I can before they kill me. I would so love to come to Texas and hang out but then I would have to get vaccinated. Let’s see how this whole thing plays out. Things may be quite different after the coming depression or even hyperinflation. We may yet have a chance to travel without restrictions. And meet up. It would be so cool. Wild hogs are nothing to be trifled with. They are mean, fast suckers. Those tusks are deadly. We don’t have them up here. All we have are grizzlies. Black and brown bears. Wolverines. Wolves. Our only real poisonous snake is a rattlesnake. Porcupines. Beavers. Foxes. And a good supply of the world’s fresh water. I hear catfish are really good eatin’. I just had A/C installed in the igloo and it sure makes a difference in the summertime. 😉 All I mean by being proper is I’m respectful of everyone unless they’re a complete a-hole. I won’t use profanity unless I’m trying to make an important point or if I’m really really angry. If someone keeps bugging me and they start to hear me using bad language that’s a sign for them to think about backing down because if they continue then it’s a kick to their ugly face followed by many more to the soft parts of their body until they stop moving. As far as I’m concerned constant profanity is the first refuge of the illiterate. I won’t start a fight but I will finish one if someone decides to attack me. I’m big and ugly enough. I’m completely respectful of women and will never put a woman down. I’m in awe of women. They are so damn strong. Blows my mind. Taking your hat off is good but even better is taking off your boots or shoes when going into someone’s home. I will never hit a woman. Only cowards hit a woman. And I will never ever EVER hurt a child. They’re precious and they’re our future. If a child doesn’t turn out properly then it’s usually bad parenting. There are exceptions to both rules. I will defend myself as long as I can if a woman comes at me with a knife or gun. If I see that it’s going badly for me then I will try and knock her out as quickly as possible before she has a chance to kill me. I love women. They are a challenge. I love challenges. Too bad I screwed up my first marriage. That’s mostly on me. I was an idiot. Never committed adultery. Just stupid. I don’t believe in much but I believe in the ten commandments. I’m fairly open minded, red ant, but there are a few things I WILL NOT TOLERATE!!!!. One of my biggest pet peeves are pedophiles. I’m not all that keen on homos either. That’s another thing the bible speaks against. I’m a fairly easy going guy but that’s one thing I can’t tolerate. When I lose it I REALLY lose it. It’s scary so I try and control my temper as best I can. I’m afraid that if I met someone that I knew was a pedophile I think that I would beat them to death. And enjoy it. Even if it meant jail time. I wouldn’t care. Those kinds of people should not be allowed to live. Just thinking about them makes me sick to my stomach. Enough of that. I’ll try out your e-mail and see if it works. I’ll e-mail you from my primary account and then you’ll have that. I’ll start you out with a video that talks about the elohim, or nephilim or Annunaki. Whatever you want to call them. Just don’t hate on me for my beliefs or lack of belief. All I want is an intelligent adult discussion about religious matters without the fanaticism. See ya on the upside.