Many people weigh their physical and mental health by how often they see a physician. Those who rarely find themselves in the presence of doctors tend to be better for it. This is strictly anecdotal but consider what Voltaire said in the 18th Century.
“The art of medicine consists of amusing the patient while nature cures the disease.”
All kidding aside, doctors are a very important part of our society. You will face an infection or virus that will require a doctor. This article is not intended to vilify your physician. In 2018 you have access to medical care at any moment. If you are suffering from a severe infection or illness, seek medical treatment.
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What this article is intended for is to understand that there are prescriptions out there that are imprisoning people. I chose the word ‘imprisoning’ carefully because it best describes the life of someone who has become dependent on the various medications we are going to talk about.
There is a lot of money to be made in the business of medicating humans. It’s a massive industry that has bigger concerns than your health. Take this example by Chris Martenson from Peak Prosperity:
“Pharmaceutical companies quietly fund opposition to medical marijuana ballot initiatives because the data shows that the use of safe and effective marijuana seriously cuts into the extremely profitable sales of highly addictive and deadly opiates.”
Statins
These lipid lowering drugs are often prescribed to people with heart conditions and have seen a serious boom as of late. I am sure you know at least one person over 40 who is on statins. These drugs will reduce blood lipids but they come with a slew of other side effects. It seems statins can be linked to other life-threatening disease as well as negatively effecting the overall efficiency of the body.
To best understand the motivations behind statins you must get a grip on the industry. Consider this from the AHN-USA.com
“Heart disease, as many of us know, is one of the leading causes of death in the US, killing about 610,000 people each year. Big Pharma—in the belief that cholesterol is the primary factor in heart disease—developed statin drugs that would lower cholesterol and reduce the risk of heart disease. The drugs, which have been accompanied by massive marketing campaigns, are huge moneymakers for the drug industry, to the tune of about $29 billion worth of sales in 2013. That’s the kind of outrageous money you make when you convince one in four Americans over the age of 45 to take statins.”
Alternatives:
Cholesterol is the glue that heals your endothelial wall. It is not a death sentence, it’s an important part of your body’s natural functions. The best way for you to get your levels in order is to exercise. There are things like oat bran, garlic and barley that have been shown to affect cholesterol levels as well.
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SSRIS
We could start with the low hanging fruit and mention most of mass shooters who were prescribed these medications. That is an argument against them that is all over the web today. The deeper root of the issue with selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors is the patient’s ability to manage the medication and the use of these meds as a long-term solution.
These medications become incredibly dangerous when the dosage changes sporadically i.e. if the person on them forgets or decides not to take so many or stops taking them altogether. There are no safeties in place to stop this. Instead, you have an individual who is struggling with their own mind and altering its chemistry as well.
The best examples of SSRI use come from folks who paid close attention to their bodies, used the as a rung to grasp and once they felt better weaned off them. The biggest problem is that it pays to keep people on them.
Flu Vaccine
The flu vaccine is a gamble. It’s a gamble every year. Doctors attempt to tell the future by guessing which strains of the flu will show up and do the most harm in the coming season. These strains make up the flu vaccine and are pumped into your body.
It’s a more precise than doctors pulling strains of the flu out of a hat but it’s still very much a gamble. I have only taken one flu shot and it was the year my first son was born. I didn’t get the flu but I haven’t gotten the flu in many years.
There are allergy concerns as well as other contaminants found within the makeup of the flu vaccine.
Alternative:
The flu is a virus and I have found that the best way to deal with viral infections is by pumping yourself with high doses of ascorbic acid. Each day I take between 1-2000mgs of Vitamin C in the crystalized form.
Ibuprofen
You may not have expected to see Ibuprofen on the list. It is a benign pain reliever and anti-inflammatory, right? Low dose, probably something you take at least once a week. The truth of the matter is that prolonged regular use of Ibuprofen can wreak havoc on your body. Consistent use will do long lasting damage to internal organs like the liver and the kidneys.
The other important and less known issue is the effect ibuprofen has on inflammation and your gut. Anti-inflammatory OTCs have been linked to stomach issues and bleeding ulcers in the stomach.
Alternative:
One of the best ways to rid yourself of inflammation is to look at what you are eating. Things like gluten and sugars have been shown to increase inflammation in the body. Eating foods like ginger and turmeric along with things like fatty fish can affect the inflammation in your body. Look at your diet for answers to your pain problems before taking pills.
Prednisone and Cortisone
The steroids are being prescribed to people in America all the time. Some people who suffer from things like asthma, lupus and rashes are on these medications. You could get them prescribed for other issues as well. These meds mess with natural hormone production in your body. They also have negative effects on your immune system. They should never be taken for prolonged periods.
They have also been shown to affect:
- Blood Sugar
- Mood
- Weight Gain
- Fluid Retention
Alternative:
In most cases you are taking these meds for some sort of inflammation. It’s important to look at how your diet and exercise as well as daily activities and environment might be affecting your inflammation. Similar to what was recommended for the use of Ibuprofen.
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Chemotherapy
If you have ever seen someone ravaged by chemotherapy its terrible to watch. Chemo is our answer to cancer right now and it’s a bad one. In most cases the chemo only makes the cancer recede before battling back with more voracity.
Alternative:
There are some incredible findings and case studies on CBD oil and the effect of THC on cancer cells. Consider the positive effects that CBD oil users are having in their battle with cancer. This is a much less invasive method in comparison to the devastating effects of chemo.
There are millions of dollars put into the effectiveness of drugs at the onset of their use. Will they fix the problem quickly? The biggest issue with Pharmaceuticals is that there is not the same money or effort put into understanding long term effects or long-term necessity of these drugs.
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Good article. Big Pharma is VERY big business and they’re not in the business of making us well. There are many natural alternatives and they are ALWAYS better. Garlic, onions, cayenne, apples, honey just to name a few.
You forgot about the use of proton pump inhibitors (like prilosec or prevacid), which are supposed to reduce acids in the stomach. Bad side effects include pancreatitis, kidney function, liver function, heart issues, messing up your digestion, dementia, etc.
Many times, “acidy” feelings result from too little stomach acid.
This is a kickass, right-on article that outlines the major problem with pharmaceutical companies and how they profit off of your (our) misery and therefore do all they can to extend it.
Good article, but has the potential of causing as much harm to people as what you are claiming the drugs do. For instance, if not with prednisone, how would you treat Stevens-Johnson syndrome or Temporal Arteritis? Without prednisone, in one case you would wind up blind and in the other dead. So while your article may have some nuggets of truth to it, the alternatives suggested simply have no place or value when it comes to big league disorders. And just like the older “Shingles Shot”, the “Flu shot” is the best we have and some protection is better than no protection. If the morbidity and mortality rate equals or exceeds the rate of the death and down time from the “flu”, then perhaps you would have a valid point, but it has never even come close! I have “taken my chances” every year now since 1982 and have never had a reaction OR the flu. Keep things in perspective.
My mother was mis-diagnosed with temporal arteritis some years ago and prescribed 250mg (could have been micrograms) of prednisone to take every day for the rest of her life, or she would surely die, the doctor said. her pre-exiting osteoperosis condition was ignored and within 6 months, my mother’s spine had started to crumble. some time later, we would learn that she really had lymes disease.
I like it
I would also have to refer to drscot’s comments. Not saying that many of the alternative natural medicinals are not effective, but then again they are not the same and cannot always do the same job.
What I am saying is that not everything in every article is 100% accurate and/or right, nor is it necessarily wrong. That also goes for the many comments posted by others to those articles. At best, it should perk an interest to research further and separate fact from fiction.
All Readers: Please take the time to look deeper through other sources, experts and case studies before gambling on your or your loved one’s health. Be safe!
A lot of what is said in the article is not true. I am an RN and have seen the opposite for 25 years of what is being said in the article. I agree with you, Old and Gray
I have always been suspicious of Big Pharma supplied medications and have worked in the health field. I should add procedures, like colonoscopies, which I think are generally unnecessary unless something intestinal is suspected. At 70 I believe I am in almost perfect health but then I have never smoked, ingested alcohol very rarely etc. But I am not an ascetic, having taken some risks. I do get quite a bit of exercise, tennis, hiking, swimming etc. THAT is a key. My wife is always taking me to doctors, I resist, but cave because I want to please her, sound familiar? I did finally take the flu vaccine but once I did and almost immediately came down with a very bad flu. That’s a tough call what with nationwide epidemic.
That doesn’t always work out so well (natural healing per se). Once had a patient walk in with grapefruit-sized cancer growing on his neck. When asked why he didn’t come in sooner he replied “never hurt”. It was a simple basal cell skin cancer that could have been 100% cured earlier, but cost him his life at this stage. Don’t be stupid and don’t be suspicious or paranoid. Above all, don’t be ignorant because ignorance can be easily cured; painfully at times but cured nonetheless!
I have read several things about statens and how big Farm is ripping us off..I have taken these findings to My VA doctor, the Mayo Clinic, and Consumer Reports and they all agree that it’s in my best interest that I keep taking the Statins although I have cut the dosage in halve. You have to put your trust into reliable sources and I have to trust these three although I’m still skeptical.
It’s not so much bad drugs, the big problem is that most American General Practitioners, and quiet a few specialists are bad doctors. Most everybody I know has been damaged by an incompetent who sees them for 5 minutes and prescribes something a salesmen is pushing on them that is the last thing the patient needs. I’m 63 and only go to Docs to get sewn up or have bones set (and nothing but praise for ER and ICU Docs and nurses,and thanks for your service to the incredible heroes of Drs Without Borders). Don’t know my BP or cholesterol or what’s going on up there inside my asshole. My medicine is the good fresh food I prepare and eat and the 40 hours a week of vigorous labor I get to do in my outdoor job. My supplements are fresh garlic, 6000 mg of salmon oil a day, and 1 capsule of standardized Echinacea every 3 days to prevent flu and rhinovirus colds.
Have practiced neurology over 30 years and studied herbal medicine longer; learned from some of the greatest Cherokee practitioners. Most naturals are for day to day to day things, most of which I personally just tough out. When you have cancer, epilepsy, sepsis, etc. you better turn to big pharma and a good MD/DO. Yeah, if you clean a wound and pack it with honey, you probably won’t get “blood poisoning”.
I have a family acquaintance who is a strict naturalist and condemned use of such things as synthetic medications or even semi-synthetics; until of course it was HER knee needing replacement and then you couldn’t hear a peep out of her when it came to anesthesia and Ancef to prevent infection. She gobbled up pain pills as well! Damned hypocrit! I think every strict or pure naturalist ought to be required to stick by their naturalist formulary especially when the chips are down. They’ll change their tune in a hurry!
With so many bad docs out there as you say, why go to one for sutures or to get “bones set”? You’d probably get a bad one or at best a mediocre one . Wouldn’t you be better off just to slather some honey and slap a poultice on it? Some would say that’s better than any doctors out there these days.. What do you have for that crushing substernal chest pain that you or somebody you love might have some day? And remember, reported side effects doesn’t mean everybody gets all of them all the time. A little experience with something doesn’t qualify that person to be the dispenser of knowledge and advice to others.
I see both sides and have been on the patient side since the age of two. I contracted Rheumatoid Arthritis at two and was the guinea pig for most of today’s rheumatological drugs. When I was in my 30’s (now 54) I decided to drop the drugs and go natural. I can truthfully say it is the best thing I ever did and wished I would have done it sooner. HOWEVER, there are times that I must see a doc and do need to take the drugs. I mostly see the doc for diagnosis and tests and then decide which way to go. I have found this works for me. As long as the doc doesn’t tell me I have to take something forever or a really extended time, I will usually take the drug. My belief is the prolonged or exceedingly high dosage drugs are the villains. My body cannot overcome something that is extensively damaging it just to have symptoms worse than the illness. Say what you will Drscot, as you are trained by the very ones that push these villains. But, I know for a fact that there are a lot of natural remedies that work. I’ve tried them, my friends have tried them and every time bingo! The sad truth is that almost every doc don’t even give a thought to healing someone naturally before immediately pushing a drug. I’ve only known 1 (one) doc in my lifetime that would actually prescribe natural healing before drugs and he lived his own life by it until his death a few years ago at the ripe old age of 98. This man could do one armed push ups at 95! Natural doesn’t always work for everyone but neither do drugs. Heavenly Father did not build these great machines called bodies to be healed in a flash. Healing takes time and Father gave us the tools. Oh, and of which most drugs are derived. Docs and RNs are great but they’re not God. Yes, when life is threatened the drugs can (maybe) save but when not, it’s better to take it slow. God bless.
P.S. – The article is relating to prolonged use of these drugs and not the occasional short term use.
Oh, and I would also like to mention how most docs believe they know MY body better than I. I am not the “text book” case and it really irritates me when docs/RNs think they know better than I on how to treat me for something I’ve had before. I have almost died twice at the hands of incompetence because they refuse to listen to how to fix me. I am allergic to ALL antibiotics. I must take an adrenal steroid to offset the symptoms of the antibiotic. The effect of antibiotics on me are a severe flare up of RA and my BP drops to near death (24/17). The BP would eventually kill me if I didn’t take the steroid. Amazing how many ICU docs want to watch me die so they can figure out what is the cause. I tell them the cause AND the cure but somehow I have no clue what I’m talking about. IDIOTS!!!!!
I agree Mace. Finally found a word for it BioIndividuality.
Got that from an herbal book. I fear the anethesia more than any procedure. Then of course they must give you pain meds, that cause severe side effects. I really need to read and practice the herbal books in my library.
Just don’t forget where to turn when you are in real trouble. Or try that procedure you were referring to WITHOUT the anesthesia. That’ll work.
Just last week I had a tooth removed that was very difficult to remove. It took the oral surgeon over an hour to complete the removal. I cannot describe how thankful I was that these were the days of very effective pain blockers. I cannot imagine having that tooth removed in the days when a couple of shots of whiskey was the only pain medication available.
While some might consider it no great loss, I am the walking, talking result of big Pharma and their panoply of drugs. I had rheumatic fever when very young and was treated with sulfa drugs during the rheumatic fever siege and recovered with no residuals due to the antibiotics.
I had salmonella poisoning before the medical profession had identified the particular pathogen responsible. It was called paratyphoid fever because it mimicked the symptoms of typhoid fever but was not caused by the typhoid pathogen. I was successfully treated with antibiotics. Without them I probably would have died. I had gone from125 pounds to about 90 pounds in ten days.
I had a wrist infection that required surgical intervention and antibiotic treatment to save my arm. Perhaps in the era before antibiotics, poultices might have worked and then again they very well might not have.
I have had a knee replaced and I have had screws placed in my ankle to stabilize a break. While big Pharma did not play much part in those surgeries, certainly the other big bad entity, the medical device industry was involved.
I have had a mesas infection two times that was treated with antibiotics.
I agree that big Pharma can be overbearing. I dislike the way they can keep the patent extended on various drugs. While I think the FDA is too much politicized.
They were badly pilloried in the thalidomide fiasco and still remember the flogging they took over that. It made them overly cautious, in my opinion, in approving drugs that other countries whose medical expertise I respect, such as Switzerland, Germany, France, Japan, have approved.
We certainly don’t have a perfect system, but we are all very lucky to be living today and not as recently as 75 years ago. In my opinion, big Pharma does more good than harm.
You have a balanced approach. Thank you. Those who excoriate big Pharma are usually quick to embrace them when the need arises only to castigate them when they are off the hook themselves. Good for you in your circumspect analysis.
I hate predictive. That is a MERSA infection, not a “mesas” infection, whatever that is. It would appear that the problem with antibiotic resistant bacteria is the overuse, usually at the insistence of the patient, of antibiotics, even when they were contraindicated. I was surprised to learn that sulfa drugs are still being prescribed and that was what was used to defeat the MERSA infection. Ha! If I make it all caps, predictive leaves it alone. Maybe I will do that after this.
Actually, the term is MRSA, not MERSA. It is an abbreviated form of Methicillin Resistant Staphyllococcus aureus.
Just another way unlearned errors are perpetuated. When you don’t know what you don’t know, you don’t know that you don’t know it. This is also known as ignorance and unfortunately it abounds.
Yes, I can’t blame that error on predictive. Thanks for the correction.
Since you know how to treat yourself so well perhaps you should do it and just bypass the doctors you refer to as “idiots”. Since you are the one that goes to them when you know so much, who is the idiot? You are a lawsuit waiting to happen and I wouldn’t touch you with a ten foot pole with that attitude. Most patients who come in self-diagnosed and demanding such and such of treatment are wrong. On occasion they are right, but it is the doctor’s neck on the line . After all, you don’t need me, you know how to treat yourself! Get with it!
Then I tip my hat to you. You apparently know more than those who have studied for many years. Instead of telling them what you have and how to treat you, simply treat yourself. Use a mirror if you have to!
Hope that is sufficient for you. What you don’t know can kill you just as dead as not only what you do know, but what you think you know as well.
I like to keep things in balance so I suggest eat right (organic, home grown) and stay active then see your doctor when you need to and let him or her be amazed at how healthy you are.
That certainly makes sense, but if that is truly the natural state of things, why would he/she be amazed?. Genetics are our foundation; our bedrock, and our cornerstone. We can’t change the genes we were born with. Certainly it behooves us to eat right, exercise, and refrain from the scourge of humanity (tobacco) and other vices, but in the end, your genes will win out. We can help good genes to be expressed and try to hinder bad ones from being expressed, but in the end, they will likely be expressed. My great aunt was the gardener, canner, and caretaker for her sisters. She died of a heart attack while tending to her vegetable garden. Famous organic authors have died of cancer, marathon runners succumbed to heart attacks while running. Crap happens to these bodies that we live in regardless of what we do or don’t do. We are mortals! Best advice? As you have said, eat right, and exercise properly; AND get the preventative medicine testing recommended at a bare minimum. There’s nothing glorious about dying from colorectal or prostate cancer. And for those of you that think you know your bodies better than your doctor does, by the time you have symptoms of either that will tell you that something is amiss in that body of yours you know so well, it will be too late. So you know your body better than your doctor does? I’ll bet you couldn’t even pass a basic anatomy quiz about that body, let alone the intricate and detailed anatomy your doctor had to learn and pass. Only a fool would say they know their body better. Don’t be a fool. Recognize your limitations. You may have to eat some humble pie but that’s okay. It certainly won’t kill you like some of the things that likely lurk in your genetic code will. Nobody is infallible; not physicians, and not even the Pope. We work together to do the best we can for “the flock”, of which we ourselves are part of as well.
Best to you!
Well noted Drscot. But after almost being killed twice by you “shepherds”, I’ll stick with what I know. Don’t get me wrong, y’all are great at diagnosing, just not always great at treating all the time. I get my physicals and tests. You’re absolutely right that when your number is up, it is UP. Regardless what you do or have done.
As for what I know or don’t, I would bet I’d do better than most in Anat. But then again, I might do better than most docs Ive met. I dont have to be a doc to know my body. I know my family history and my body. I also know how to cure it with what God gave us. Thank you for your opinion.
Saw my mortality at 31. When they don’t know what you have, how you got it, OR how to get better. My nose was rubbed in it. AND when the consulting surgeon won’t do an exploratory, because he might kill you…. That is an eye opener.
How was your nose rubbed in it? How did you see your mortality if they didn’t know what you had and didn’t treat you? You are still here and that is a good thing. Seeing you own mortality is having a gun shoved in you face only to hear the “click” of a misfire. Now that’s seeing your own mortality.
Exploratory surgery is a thing of the past. It was used in the days before all the electronic diagnostics were available. It was mainly used as a last ditch effort to identify suspected cancers and usually resulted in the patient being stitched back up and sent home to die.
By the way, magnetic resonance imaging, ultrasonic testing and various x-ray tests using radioactive dyes are thanks to the aerospace industry. They were highly interested in finding cracks in parts before those cracks reached criticality (the wings fell off).
The Rockwell Science Center in Thousand Oaks CA (of recent notoriety due to fire) used to hold interdisciplinary seminars from all the leading research centers in the U.S. on leading edge non-destructive testing techniques. Rockwell was involved in the B-1 program which had composite airframe and skin and defects in laminar surfaces and cracks at airframe junctures were of vital interest. Test pilots got testy about flying a/c when parts delaminated (fell off).
Metal parts were also subject to parts failure. The B-111 which fortunately had a very short service life had the nasty habit of having the nose landing gear collapse at awkward moments. It was unnerving to a pilot to be taxiing to take off and pass several planes sitting in the revetments alongside the taxiway with the nose gear collapsed.
I have no idea wbat your experiences have been, good or bad, but medicine is considered an art & a science. Not an exact science. You should apply the saying of “physician, heal thyself” since you know how to cure yourself. Good luck when the chips are really down and it isn’t your time yet.
Sorry sir, the art part of the science isn’t being taught now.
I was there. You just didn’t comprehend it if you were. Art is an implication of life, and multiple possible pathways to the goal of wholeness allows the physian to apply his skills and his judgement. That makes it an art.
DrScot, If I made an appt. with you and walked into your office and just sat down, what would be the first thing you would ask me?
Temporal arteritis requires a temporal artery biopsy by a qualified surgeon and diagnosis from a pathologist. Furthermore, prednisone is NEVER dosed at 250 mg per day or even in micrograms. That dose cited is so wildly inappropriate that any pharmacist would call it into question and alert the physician and possibly even the State Medical Board. Somebody likely doesn’t have their facts straight for whatever reason. You gave a possible range from 250 mg clear down to 1/4 mg. Why didn’t you just throw in the kitchen sink to boot? I know you believe your story but your “facts” are so blatantly and wildly implausible that it leaves you appearing totally ignorant about the subject upon which you wish to opine.
If one would like an independent verification of drscot’s comments I would recommend mayoclinic.org which has a discussion of temporal arteritis. His statements regarding t.a. coincide with the Mayo Clinic’s discourse on the condition.
There are a variety of sites from valid medical entities where one can obtain verifiable medical information. With internet availability, one can always verify what one’s personal physician has diagnosed, not to second guess the personal physician, but to be able to ask intelligent questions and perhaps stimulate further thought on the topic by the physician.
One need not rely on unverified statements on a site like this, especially when they stretch credulity.
Certain groups rely solely on prayer to effect cures. There are cases where someone has recovered having received only prayer treatment. While that may have been effective for that particular individual, that same application may have absolutely no effect for the next 9999 people who submit themselves to the same treatment.
Not every pathological condition is curable. Treatment that works for 9999 people may not work for patient number 10,000. The best the medicos can do is provide the workable treatment for the largest number of people. There is always the anomaly to frustrate both doctor and patient.
Amen!!
Maybe drscot should be writing this article rather than James Walton, but the article would have to have a different title.
I am a medical marijuana patient. For over 10 years I was taking 3000 mg. of Ibuprofen daily for pain management. I now take 50 mg. of cannabis CBD once daily. I HAVE NOT TAKEN ANY IBUPROFEN IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS FOR ANY REASON! Thank you Jesus!
I come from a long line of diabetics. Diabetes (type 2) took my Mother, grandparents, all of her siblings, my Dad has it, and I and all of my siblings have it, including my vegetarian brother who is in excellent physical shape and very active…the side effects of the diabetes meds are miserable…(who wants to have diahhrrea for weeks at a time??)
I’m insulin resistant, and am researching herbal treatments and learning a lot. I do believe God gave us everything we need on this planet to heal ourselves, we just need to discover the correct combinations. Synthetic pharma is not something I want to fill my body with.
SK, Keep looking. I’m not on insulin and don’t want to be. May of 19 found Berberine. In a small study it went head to head with Metformin. M has a little talked about side effect, weight gain. Berberine has a weight loss side effect. Just last month found Nopol, Prickly pear cactus. My goal is to stop the metformin before we can’t get it.
Big Pharma, and associated industries, are in the HEALING Business…They are the Profit making business…Big Medicine doesnt Heal as much as the prolong, and , you ( we all) Pay Big $$ for it…go natural as much you can..PS..Get outside and Move and eat less….
Big Pharma, and associated industries, are in the HEALING Business…They are the Profit making business…Big Medicine doesnt Heal as much as the prolong, and , you ( we all) Pay Big $$ for it…go natural as much you can..PS..Get outside and Move and eat less….Live better and longer..
I want to thank my drs. After a stroke they found anurisms (2). I have been prescribed BP meds and a statin. 30 days with the statin and I had to stop due to side effects and drs recommendation. I recently retired and now my Bp meds are causing problems so back to the Dr and a dose modification has been made and being monitored.
I’m a different person. I have a high tolerance to pain. I require very little anesthesia. This kinda messes with drs as I sleep through even a simple proceedure. I warn them to have narcan handy. That also caused problems during recovery from prostrate surgery. No pain meds possible for first 3 hrs. That day a dose of morphine was better than sex.
My view point is Drs are needed and you get a lot better diagnosis and treatment when your honest with them and talk to them when it seems wrong or different.