Bugging out is one of those things everyone associates with preppers, but the reality is that, when a crisis hits, most preppers are going to stay right where they are.
Bugging in is a more practical choice for the majority of us; instead of setting out on what could be a dangerous journey to a location that could be pretty austere, we can keep on living in a home that contains everything we own – a really valuable survival resource.
The problem with bugging in is that because it’s so easy, a lot of preppers get a false sense of security. Your home’s already well equipped, your stockpiles are in it and you know how you’re going to defend it when the SHTF.
That’s all you need, right? Wrong.
There are some mistakes preppers make when deciding to bug in, and they can be deadly. If you’re planning to spend the apocalypse at home, here are a few things you need to consider.
Is Bugging In The Right Solution For You?
Bugging in really is the best option for many – probably most – preppers, but it’s not for everyone. Obviously if you live in a high-rise apartment in a big city you’re already planning to leave in a crisis, but there can be other reasons your home isn’t a safe place to stay.
That can be as simple as living right beside one of the routes out of that big city. In a crisis you could have thousands of refugees streaming past your home, and they’re going to want your stuff.
If you’re planning to bug in you need to make very sure it’s viable.
Do you have access to a reliable water supply if the faucets run dry – one that won’t be polluted if local industry disintegrates? Is there a fire risk from surrounding buildings or woodland? Is there a way to replenish your food reserves if a crisis goes on longer than expected?
Have You Cut Off Your Options?
Even if bugging in is a viable option, you need a bugout plan too. No matter how perfect your home is as a survival refuge, things can go wrong. Anything can happen, from wildfires to the military deciding to secure and evacuate your area.
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If you do need to leave in a hurry you need to have a bugout bag ready to go, a list of things to load into your vehicles if you have time, and at least a rough idea of where you’re going to go.
Ideally you’ll have a couple of potential bugout locations in mind, and you’ll already have visited them to make sure they’re suitable.
Are You Really Self Sufficient?
You can have a basement stuffed with food, but it won’t keep you alive unless you have all the essential nutrients covered.
We’ve heard of preppers who stockpiled nothing but rice and pasta – great for carbs, but not so good for protein, fat, vitamins and minerals.
It’s not enough to simply buy up whatever’s going cheap at the local Costco; you need to make sure you have a food supply that will deliver balanced, nutritious meals three times a day.
Proper meals aren’t just good for nutrition, either; they really help with morale.
Did You Plan For The Worst?
Your home might be safe and well-equipped to survive the apocalypse, but sometimes an ordinary home just isn’t enough. What if fighting breaks out between troops and looters?
What if there’s a nuclear attack in your area? Most American homes won’t even slow bullets down, and even the most solidly constructed one isn’t proof against radioactive fallout.
If you want to be truly safe you need a refuge in or near your home. Ideally you want a fallout shelter or bunker, one that’s large enough to live in for at least two weeks after a nuclear attack.
If you can spend two weeks inside a solidly built bunker that’s surrounded by at least a foot of earth – three feet is better – and has a filtered air supply, radiation levels will have fallen to tolerable levels by the time you come out. The good news here is that any bunker solid enough to protect you from fallout will easily stop bullets, too.
A rebarred concrete fallout shelter with three feet of earth over the roof is perfect, but it’s also very expensive. It’s possible to make one much more cheaply with sandbags.
Who Knows You’re Prepping?
Do you tell your neighbors about the latest steps you’ve taken to be ready for a crisis? Do you proudly show visitors round your stores of food and equipment, and invite them to ooh and aah at that new security system you just installed?
Or do you regularly post prepping advice to your neighborhood association’s Facebook page?
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Well, stop. Right now.
It’s natural to be proud of what you’ve done to be self-reliant and ready for anything, but human nature is something we just can’t rely on. No matter how nice and trustworthy someone is when life is good, circumstances can make them change.
When your neighbors are running low on food and water, when their power has been out for a week and there’s no sign of it coming back on anytime soon, when desperate refugees from the city are prowling round their house and they don’t have any guns or ammunition, their minds will turn to where they can get the things they need to survive. And they’ll know, because you showed them.
No matter how prepared you are to defend your home, if a big enough group of determined people want to force their way in and take your stuff they can do it. The best defense you have is anonymity.
Don’t let people know you’re prepping unless you can trust them with your life, because that’s literally what you’ll be doing.
Bugging In VS Bugging Out
We’re huge fans of bugging in, but it’s a decision you need to plan carefully. Planning to stay at home in a crisis isn’t the easy option compared to bugging out; it needs just as much work.
Before you make the final choice – stay or go – make sure your home is really somewhere you can ride out the end of the world in. Otherwise you could be in for some unpleasant surprises.
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Rich, this is such a good article. Well presented with spot-on advice. Hope many folks read it and take it to heart.
This article is right on target. Experience is the best teacher. If you think you can successfully bug out, try it out. A few years ago, while traveling on business to southern Florida, I got caught up in a mandatory hurricane evacuation. I had a confirmed ticket out on one of the last flights out of one of the last airports still open. The drive up state to the airport was a real eye opener. Not just the usual bumper to bumper traffic, we have around here, but packed cars and packed boats towed by packed pickups and camper vans Not much difference there between bugging out and fleeing for one’s life.
Haha.. I was in south Florida and move north 3 hours or so.. But prepping is much more than food and drink. I am finding there is a tool for everything. Possibilities seem endless.. Good Luck. Ps im originally from nh/mass
for those like me that have a real issue with claustraphobia, being stuck in an enclosed area underground is a huge issue. sure i can medicate and sleep most of the time but it is not beneficial.
I’m so sorry you struggle with that Lisa. Have you looked into working towards desensitizing yourself with the help of a professional? Harder than medication, but beneficial if you need to be in an enclosed area to survive. Not to mention desensitization will make you an asset instead of a liability to others in the event of an emergency.
Lisa, that sounds like I was. Ask God for His peace. then claim it because it’s physician heal thyself–with God’s help. Meditate on peace in dark, closed places. It works. I know because I knew people who during the battle of Dresden were trapped for several days under rubble. Same, it happened 3 times to, but those who obeyed that injunction to mediate survived whole in mind. Call fear a demon and give it the boot. niio
Lisa I also have claustraphobia but I beat mine by a simple but very effective means. Instead of allowing my fear to overide my logic when I was in an enclosed space(another words frezzing up and not being able to function) I started thinking about things and places I liked. I found not allowing myself to think about being in an enclosed place actually helped. Then I forced my self to go into caves and such where I would get claustraphic and using logic to overide my fobia. After about 15 or 20 times doing this I overcame the claustraphobia.
I do have another fobia but it is of deep dark water lol. But this one does not make me frezze up it just makes me more aware of what is around me.
Fear is a good thing because when you are afraid you are more aware od what is happening around you as long as you don’t alow that fear to overide your logical thinking.
Very Good read John,
But you forgot to mention who must bug in, and who can bug out. If you are in reasonably good shape and can reach your bugout location on foot in a reasonable time, you have both options available to you (except after a nuclear attack), bug in or bug out depending on your situation.
But, if you are like me – a diabetic, or disabled, this limits your options by far to bugging in only. I can’t shoulder a 75lb pack for days on end, and a moving truck or car is a target anyone on foot will attack or steal from you. Some might say that I did this to myself and I should pay the price, but now, diabetes can strike anyone at any time at any age for no reason at all. So, who is willing to “cast the first stone” when they could become just like me at any moment?
So, I bug in. The yard is overgrown and only mowed three times a year. The trash can is ready to be thrown across the yard to create an illusion of mayhem. The splochy paint is sort of sketchy on the house and my solar panels are on the back of the house not seen from the street. I drive old farm style trucks are only seen in the next town over, they look like wrecks but mechanically are as perfect as I can make them. I never drive the same route going or coming to resupply. I have no predictable habits, have not boasted about my stash to anyone except my Son, who knows better than to talk about it to anyone. The propane and gas tanks are below ground with only the fill and ventilation tubes exposed and camoflaged. I will be very vigilant with a home grown security system that is not visible, but have a partner living with me, she knows how to be silent and how to use a crossbow when needed. I am not perfectly protected, but who is? I do know this – when my pills run out, I have a week or two before I die, then anyone can have the place if my girlfriend has deserted the place, or she may choose to team up with somebody else. I have written my plans down so she can stay, or go to a better place of a friend who is in better health than me. I have taken all the steps I can afford to do including a garden spot that I grow veggies in year round, with fruit trees on the back lot. 15 acres can hide a lot of things, and I have valuable communication, automotive, and electrical skills that may be very valuable when the Day comes. This may allow me to live longer, maybe. The point I am making is this:, the more useful you are to others after the Day comes, the longer you will live. But, be extremely careful in choosing your allies. Do not pick friends easily, as they or one of their family may have a big mouth, or be a “gossip” or “snitch”. People like that usually die hard, but quickly.
try berberine for the diabetes. it is a herb but very effective. will drop me after a meal of pasta to 5.1 readily available and easy to keep.
The Lost Book of Herbal Remedies will help you to control your diabetes. Also, some great info in The Foragers Guide to Wild Foods. I will keep using my pills and insulin, for now, but if the SHTF I will rely on nature. My wife is a RN and also has 2 green thumbs, so we have a great herbal garden.
Great article.. I was already disenchanted where I was and where I had recently moved has alot to do with these times. It is not perfect, but my back is to the woods. Sparsely populated, and wont need any permits. I had bought one of those books on how to build a shelter and root seller… but I never got it. Is there a site I could copy from? Im tweaking food and medicine.. also trying to learn alternatives of foods by reading. Defense is good. Need to start the place. Thank you all.. Great work. We can do this. Skio
Frederick: Write to Claude about the books.
I think your best bet with food is local grapes and nut trees. Fruits like mulberries and wild persimmons are good. You don’t say what planting zone or rainfall, so that’s the best I can do. In zone 5 and cooler, scarlet runner beans usually produce well. Here, now (zone 9, Arizona) is our second spring. Cole crops go in, as well as fruit trees and so on. Some folks do well with potatoes, but not me, LOL. May you thrive. niio
2 kings 20: 12 At that time Beroḏaḵ-Balaḏan son of Balaḏan, sovereign of Baḇel, sent letters and a present to Ḥizqiyahu, for he heard that Ḥizqiyahu had been sick.
13 And Ḥizqiyahu listened to them, and showed them all his treasure house, the silver and the gold, and the spices and the precious ointment, and all his armoury, and all that was found among his treasures. There was not an object in his house or in all his rule that Ḥizqiyahu did not show them.
14 And Yeshayahu the prophet came to Sovereign Ḥizqiyahu, and said to him, “What did these men say, and from where did they come to you?” And Ḥizqiyahu said, “They came from a distant land, from Baḇel.”
15 And he said, “What have they seen in your house?” And Ḥizqiyahu answered, “They saw all that is in my house; there is not an object among my treasures that I did not show them.”
16 And Yeshayahu said to Ḥizqiyahu, “Hear the word of יהוה:
17 See, the days are coming when all that is in your house, and what your fathers have treasured up until this day, shall be brought to Baḇel – no object is to be left,’ said יהוה.
18 And they are going to take away some of your sons who are to be born to you, whom you bring forth, and they shall be eunuchs in the palace of the sovereign of Baḇel.’ ”
“Ideally you’ll have a couple of potential bugout locations in mind, and you’ll already have visited them to make sure they’re suitable.”
Not my definition or description of a prepared BOL – if you’re bugging out without a prepared and secured destination point >> you’re nothing more than a better prepared sheeple refugee ….
Well written! I have several places I can go, need be. But, solid brick walls, tight windows, plenty of fencing au natural (cactus, mesquite, and so on) that attracts rattlers and more. Nothing out of the ordinary for the area. I do want to get rugosa roses both for the petals (make a good bruise cream), the rose hips, and the thorns. niio
You’ve mentioned Rugosa roses before and got me interested in them. They’re similar to the original single flowered Knockout Rose, the Knockout gets a bit bigger. Rugosa is somewhat susceptible to the rose diseases like blackspot and rust, pythium and phytophthora, less so than hybrid roses. Knockout is resistant to those common problems but is susceptible to Rose Rosette Disease, a mite borne fungus that kills the plant, no cure. I have about 60 feet of Knockout beds around the house and replace 2 or 3 plants a year. Think I’m going to start mixing Rugosa in with the Knockouts, can grow them from seed and propagate from cuttings, of course roses grow faster than anything. The Rugosa has a good history of medicinal and food uses, the Knockout not so much, but probably the same as other roses. Great barrier plants. Rugosa is probably better adapted to desert life, another problem with Knockout Rose is finding the single blooms, most places just carry double flowering, not near as pretty or fragrant.
Judge: cousins in Maine have rugosa growing on a cliff above the Atlantic. One sister lives in a swamp, the poono mtns, PA, and they thrive there, as well. they’re one of the few roses recommended for Arizona. Stems are covered in thorns, and animals avoid trying to get thru them. They’re a wild rose, and hardy to zone 3 and into zone 10. niio
We know community can defend space better than lone wolf. The challenge is bringing community along in their preps. I find it a fine line between encouraging my social network to prep without giving advice that clearly advises my state of prep. In some cases sharing my preps has been a motivation for others to follow suit.
Appeal to people’s greed. With our economy tanking, and the price for everything going up, point out that any extra food purchases today will be a savings over getting it later. Point out that the increased savings (if you can call it that) will afford them the opportunity to buy something they want. The CPI has increased again, and I see no reason to believe our government handlers when they say this inflation is transitory. The only thing that makes it transitory is the fact that once our money tanks and we are on a new system, the fed can start from scratch without showing any inflation.
P.i.T.:
Excellent point, and that’s what I did with my friend the other day. Just pointed out that prices are still going up, availability is becoming more limited and we live in an area prone to severe winter storms and power outages.Said she should talk to her family about it, too. I hope that she takes it to heart and acts on it. She rarely watches the news so I don’t know how much she’s aware of how serious the situation has already become.
So if bugging in will cause neighbors knocking on my walls/doors, why not knock on their doors first to throw them off guard thinking you are just a bad off as they are. Back in ’68 I survived the streets of NYC. Slept in the Subway at night and panhandled during part of the day. Promised myself that IF I lived through that I would never to hungry again. Being homeless taught me how to acquire food in the weirdest places & how to cook w/only a piece of aluminum foil & the sun w/help of a shinny object.
John, when visiting family in NYC, I dress down, like old, old clothes, some patches. I’ve never been taped by a panhandler. One even offered me a few bucks to get a coffee! 🙂 I bought him one. niio
Sadly, today that won’t do the trick, Red. NYC gangs, whether they are working on their initiation rights or are simply enjoying themselves round town at other people’s expense, are not at all particular about what their prey looks like or how they may be dressed.
CC: NYC lost a lot when di blasio came to wreck you.
But, dressing down the property works here. I’m having a white night and let the dog out back (2:30 AM) He wanted to stay out, so, washed the dishes, checked the sausage, which needs to be frozen or something ASAP. Went out back to whistle. Termite shot into the house, skidded around the corner to dive into the bedroom and his hiding hole. Might be coyotes or a big kitty (mountain lion or a bobcat). Any of them would see him as tasty. OK, no problem. I’m in the bedroom and on the computer when he growls. He’s staring at the bedroom door. I go out thinking someone is messing around in the back. No, he’s staring at the front door. We have no street lights, so I turned on the porch light. Nada. when I turned off the light, Termite is hiding behind the fridge. OK, now I am awake! Come 1st light, I’ll see if there are any tracks. niio
Two issues with this article. 1). “Security Through Obscurity” as I call it is NOT a plan – it’s a hope. Hope can fail in a crises. 2). A shelter – any shelter, regardless – is not a refuge, it’s a delaying tactic. With tens, hundreds or even thousands of people trying, they WILL breach your defenses. You will need to include in your plan how to escape your shelter (so make sure you have more that one exit, and a secret exit to an unnoticeable way out is the best option. Never get caught in a trap with only one way in/out.) So you need caches at a distance, and kits within kits that you can still grab and go.
For reference, just study and siege in history. Generally speaking, the defenders lose the battle. From Masada, to Rome, to Troy to many many others.
donald: My truck looks like it had one too many run-ins with range cows, but it has no problem going cross country and I get no problems. My yard is weedy (AKA wild flowers), but the house has never been raided let alone the gardens which look unkept. this is dressing down. Note the tests. antifa and their houseboy BLM did not raid poor ‘hoods, but middle class and upper crust. niio
I agree with your premise and add “distance ” is a valid part of a plan. If you are 12 hour normal drive from a major urban population center you are 36 hours away in a disaster (far more than one tank of gas for the unprepared). That can be a minimum 20 day walk (very long time for the unprepared). I may have local neighbors but the numbers are smaller and they tend to be a lot more self-reliant because of where we all live anyway. Like the old saying, the best way to block a punch is to not be there.
Red – We’re counting the days till William packs up and leaves Gracie Mansion. We are hopeful that he will return to Boston of his own free will. Failing do so, may have consequences beyond his imagination as the whole entire city is totally fed up! It’s unbelievable that he thinks he still has a political career in anything except in a fixed election!
Does he obey? Is he in love with wealth and power? Does he sell cheap? 🙂
Boston Miracle: Where the dead rise to vote for the dnc.
niio
Corn, beans, squash built central American Civilizations.
3 sisters
I am starting to get scared. We are ready. We live in the woods. There are a couple thousand acres to bug out. Or we can bug in. We have the food, the tools, the training. We are reloading and training several times per week. We grow and preserve. I canned 20 jars today. The husband is cutting and splitting wood EVERYDAY! NO ONE knows we prep except the team we have assembled. But I am getting frightened. We have prepared for years, and all of a sudden, I feel like we are not ready. I want it, what ever IT is, to happen when no one is visiting. I am getting nervous for sure.
Tee, it seems to me that you have less to fear than the average person. If you and your husband have been preparing so well plus your team, you will do better than many others. The main factor is to make sure that your spiritual house is in order, then you can handle much more than you think. Pray for peace within your heart and give your fears to God. You know that you have done a good job and haven’t been lazy about preparing, i.e., canning 20 jars today. Look around you and see all that you already have prepared.
Take a deep breath and dial down the Prepper Paranoia. Take a broader view of the world and you’ll see it is not ending, the economy isn’t collapsing, the ‘Socialists’ aren’t turning us into Venezuela. State Governments and the Federal Courts are dominated by true Conservatives. Antifa and BLM are a puff of smoke. I t sounds like you guys have a great setup, keep on Prepping, but enjoy life! I’m about to sit down with good company to a good ribeye dinner on a beautiful fall night, if the economy or the grid or the entire social structure collapse tomorrow, we’re ready. Circumstances might overwhelm us but we’ll make a better fight than the 200 unprepared in Texas who died last winter because the power was out for 3 days.
Thank you Sagebrush and JH,
You both talked me down. Tonight I asked My Heavenly Father to help me chill. It worked.
Tee: Frightened is a curse and attracts what you do not want. Find a way to be calm and at peace. If a Christian, I can send you things that help fight fear. niio
Tee, you have little to worry about.. I wish I was in your shoes, but I do a little every day. That is the point. The rest is in the hands of God
Pretty good Chip 🙂 Reliable nutritious FOOD built civilizations.
LACK of Food destroys civilizations. Everyone talks about the EBT Crowd going crazy when their cards fail to provide food, BUT when the MOST Scary Words in History occurs all Bet are Off.
“Mommy, I’m HUNGRY”
The sweetest natured Grandmother you know will do anything to feed her Grand Daughter-Grand Son. She will ask, beg, steal and even lead a Mob to kill you for that food for her kids.
That and as a medical sort I know how many folks are being kept functional with Legal Drugs like Prozac for Dealing with “Normal Daily Stressors”. Now the Insurance folks will only let you have about 90 days’ worth AND the SITUATION is nothing like Normal.
Otherwise, reasonable neighbors are going to get WIERD in less than 90 days, even IF food isn’t an issue.
Know your neighbors. Better yet have a trusted family to watch each other’s backs. As Ecclesiastes 4: 11-12 says
…11Again, if two lie down together, they will keep warm; but how can one keep warm alone? 12And though one may be overpowered, two can resist. Moreover, a cord of three strands is not quickly broken.
Lone Wolf’s will die alone in their exhausted sleep. Or if they hide well enough from a broken leg, an infection, the madness of being alone and so on.
Michael, your comment about the numbers of people who currently get along with society only because they are on psychotropics is very valid. Statistically, my area has a high number of basic moms on various calming medicines.
Chip: Mexico city and points north, honey mesquite, agave, and yucca. those should be the standard for anyone living in the southwest and into Mexico. They’ll feed us even in years that kill maize and squash. niio
So, don’t live in a big city or on the way out of one near a major highway.
Be self-sufficient.
Everyone has a weapon and ammo. And can use it.
Practice good small town camo around your home. Example: Fly the American flag in front of your house. (city folk know that means your armed)! If you really want to impress city dwellers, a Don’t Tread on Me flag .
Chain link fences etc. not privacy fences. for a clear line of shot,
Other preppers in the neighborhood. Good relations with the neighbors. Anonymity is a really good idea that may last for a few weeks.
Lots-a food and prescriptions and water source.
A well hidden solar power for the fridge and phone chargers. And if all goes in the crapper. a 1970’s era motorhome, no computer, outfitted with solar to bug-out.
I got this covered. As long as the Great Orange One stays in FL. or jail, and out of DC. We’ll be fine. If he is elected again; it most likely will happen.
Terry: It’s happening now because he’s in FL and not the WH. the dnc is trying to put us in the Weimar Republic Party era that worked to seat Hitler. biden and harris are ready to step down, and dems are demanding it. who’s next? Pelosi. But, she doesn’t want it because her thefts will be uncovered. soros like hillary. Hitler loved Muslims, so the dnc does. How many terrorists are coming in? I live in Arizona and life here is never rosy, but shouldn’t be like it is now, either. niio
(something froze and I could not continue). I do believe that one God made heaven and earth. I believe that He sent his only Son, Jesus Christ, to earth to die as a ransom for all of us. I believe that one day (it is starting to feel like it will be any day), our Lord and Savior, will return to break us out. Then a 1000 year battle will ensue. I hope to give my service to our Creator and our Savior (our Creator’s Son) and fight in that battle (I mean why do I practice shooting the mile so often?). I have, and I have always had difficulty with believing in the trinity. But otherwise, I am all in.
You are right on spot. Obama is pulling the strings for his puppet Biden. Just my opinion. Everybody has one you know
Hi Red, Arguably the most significant reason why the Weimar Republic failed was the onset of the Great Depression. The economic collapse of 1929 had dire effects on Germany. This resulted in many German voters abandoning their support for mainstream and moderate parties, choosing instead to vote for radical groups…like the Nazi Party.
The Weimar Republic suffered grave problems, such as hyperinflation, political extremism, including political murders and two attempted power seizures by contending paramilitaries, as well as contentious relationships with the victors of the First World War.
Article 48 of the constitution of the Weimar Republic of Germany (1919–1933) allowed the President, under certain circumstances, to take emergency measures without the prior consent of the Reichstag. This power was understood to include the promulgation of “emergency decrees.” This was used by Hitler to lock in his power as “Fuehrer” (“Leader”), title used by Adolf Hitler to define his role of absolute authority in Germany’s Third Reich (1933–45).
Absolute power is The Great Orange One’s ultimate goal. Compare this history to today’s news. I’ve witnessed Neo-Nazi’s yelling “Heil Trump”. He calls them “Good people.” Let’s not forget what happened to minorities and those deemed undesirable.
They say, how could an advanced country like Germany elect such a monster? Watch out America S will HTF under Trumps’ leadership.
I was a Republican; until he was elected. With so many good candidates on the Republican side in 2016 why him? (“He tells it like it is?”) We are very lucky we made it through the first four years without a disaster.
I know my political stance will not be popular here on this site but I live in the USA and have freedoms for now; and I’ll fight for them. I’m a student of history and see things repeating. Re-electing a sociopathic narcissist is NEVER a good plan. Donald is the GREATEST threat to this great country and constitution since our founding.
Why did tis call me ttGermany elect? I’m Terry Lee Byrnes.
ttGermany elect: Wiegehets. Wiemar failed because socialism will always fails; people get sick of being sheep. Add a religion, which Hitler did, New Age anti-Christian, and it helps a lot. Meine Stiefmutter, zwei Tanten, eine Schwiegermutter und viele Cousinen haben die deutsche Depression durch die Weimarer Republik durchlebt. That gives me eyewitness accounts. Same in Penna, where they avoided the depression because Gov. Scranton cut taxes, fees, and regulations. Then FDR, a friend of Hitler’s, came in, raised taxes and fees, and the nation collapsed.
You do not explain how current events are so similar to the WRP. You need to study it for yourself, not take others’ word for what happened. As said, I knew people who lived through it, and blessed be the fact some were graduated of places like Heidelberg University.
The Orange Man had a strange way of creating the WRP, which is a dnc thing. He killed restrictive laws and taxes, gave us more freedom and an excellent economy till the jackasses destroyed it with a man-made fake plague. The plague, BTW, was great for the dnc, it killed off thousands of recips in social security. If you know what you’re talking about, you’d know Hitler did that.
If the Orange Man wanted absolute power, he had only to claim it. Odd that he never did, but stayed within the law while the nazis party/dnc went insane. Do you know when they began to attack him? When he said he would fight slavery in the US. He took the number of slaves from a half-million to 400,000 in 4 years of battling against the jackass slavers.
I’ve never, not once, heard anyone shout heil trump. But, nazi propaganda is a dem forte. Dems also use claims that conservatives are all klan to get votes. On this same track, I have seen small children singing jungen-like songs to obama and he smiled and encouraged it. It’s a dem thing, to claim to be a god like Hitler’s demonic ascended masters of Aldebaran. If you don’t know Aldebaran, you know nothing of nazi motives and therefor nothing about nazism.
Of course your political stand will never be popular here. You took it all from the propaganda put out by soros, the gestapo agent. What you may never understand is, Trump is an actor, and expert at horse trading. He waves one hand and liberals focus on that while the other hand is working against them. If you have an above average IQ, and you seem to, then think outside the box. Trump was very good for us. Dems are very destructive. I remember as a small child as a party for dem ward bosses, a congressman laughed and said, “You can come to congress with holes in your shoes and dressed in rag, and if you’re not rich in two years, you’re stupid.”
Red, Your comment and synopsis of history that was posted yesterday is spot on. Good job listing it all. FDR was the one who went to the Yalta conference and gave away so many countries to the soviets. Evil man he was.
It will come closer to happening if Trump does stay out of DC. The leftists/liberal/socio/commie/nazi/fascists have taken over the demonicrat party. SHTF is 90% more likely NOW than it was 3 years ago! p.s.- there are literally hundreds of demonicrats that deserve a jail, or more drastic, sentence than Trump! Are you one of those “commie preppers” who plan on taking what you want/need? If so, stay out of Texas.
red,
I am a devout Christian. I attend a Cristian grad school. My husband is on the church counsel. We go to church on Suday. We volunteer at the church food pantry. Yes, I am Christian.
Tee, be blessed! On Mom’s side of the family people have died of panic attacks. While this is in part due to bad diet–we’re all gluten intolerant–enough is due to that until my great-grandmother (follows female line) put her foot down and demanded all the family leave satanic practices most were witches. American Indian witches are not Wicca. Look up skinwalkers and the insanity they do. God calls fear a sin. You know what to do to bind and cast out sin and the tempters. Praying with you! walk in beauty
https://www.demonbuster.com/coward.html
Red, I just read a very informative book, ‘Muddy Waters’. In it the various practices of American Indians that slip into the occult are detailed. A lot of us have family history that had occultic practices that were thought to be cultural traditions. For my family, it was ancient Scandinavian ‘traditions’. With the world getting more and more crazy, we all have to be solidly clear on our spiritual path. If we waver on our spiritual path, the physical preparations we have made for harder times might not work out for whatever reason.
Sage: the very reason Columbus believed the ancestors (and Taino at that!) to be the 10 lost tribes is because they lived as close as they could to what Abraham-Moses believed. Un gente en Dios, Indios for short, a Godly people.
niio means to walk in God’s beauty. We have a dark side and God. All peoples do. I worry more about the occult slipping into daily life. What is already here was likely brought post-Flood over the Bering Land Bridge. Creation stories, the flood, all fit into biblical accounts. Yes, there is evil in too much, but the same as in Africa, where many sub-Saharan peoples are descended from Jews fleeing oppression.
Sorry for being curt here. An older brother passed away on the 10th. The strange thing is, with my health problems, we all figured I’d be the first to go. niio
Red,
So very sorry for your loss.
May you and your family find peace.
MadFab
Thank you red. I am of 100% German ethnicity. I am a Christian who loves God. But my mother practices some ancient… stuff. Not Druid. She told me they where amateurs. Definitely not Wican. She says that is voodoo. She has the ability to makes people’s lives very difficult or worse. She has accomplished some very sad and curious things. My husband once told me, “If she was smart, she would be dangerous”. I believe she is very dangerous. My dead step father would agree.
Tee: be blessed. I know what you mean. My last one bragged her grandmother in Saxony, Gr., was a witch and her mother a sergeant in the SS (who hated nazism, as did most citizens). She thought she was very powerful, but when she cursed a Christian, it always fell back on her. It’s telling when your own daughters, your heirs, will not talk to you. When she left, my son talking her to Nevada, she tried to force her will over him. Nope, one of his grandfathers was a Delaware, the other Blackfeet. I raised the kids to be independent but loyal to the group. He told her off for laziness, and she had him arrested. His mother disappeared while he was in jail. Cops looked for her, then others, but and even the pow wow grapevine can’t find her. But, like elders in Nevada said, why bother. God made her overreach, I hear, and now I suppose I have the dubious honor of being merry widower. May God give you peace about her, and forgiveness. Fear is caused by demonic spirits that attached to you, the same as happened to so many on Mom’s family. niio
Tee, If you have any gifts in your home from your Mother, particularly if they lean toward ancient designs, it might be wise to get them out of your home. Pray about which ones to toss or burn. My family used to practice some ancient Scandinavian ceremonies so I am aware of the damage all of that can do. I suspect that is why we had a higher number of family troubles. Some people keep “art” on their walls, thinking that it is “just art”. Their original purpose might not have been just ‘art’, those things might not have a clean spiritual history.
Sage,
My husband and I went through the house inch by inch. We could find nothing that my mother has ever touched. She has little, if any, part in our lives. She only contacts me when she needs something or to complain about one of my siblings. She and I do not have a relationship. We have occassional contact.
Thanks for the great advice!!!!!
Tee:
You may want to get some holy water and bless your home and property. You can get it from any Catholic Church, and walk your house and property in a clockwise route, sprinkling the water and asking God to cast out any evil or negative energy and replace it with good. A good quality sage smudge stick can be bought at most “hippie” or “new age” stores, especially those that have a Native American section and is used in the same manner, plus it smells really nice and will freshen the air.
I’ve done this before moving into all of my apartments, and I truly believe that it has helped dispel any negative influences from workmen or previous tenants. If you have bought used items, you can “treat” the thing before bringing in your house, and it may be advisable.
I got a bookcase for free down by the dumpster at my old apartment building, cleaned it and brought it in. My cat at the time acted terrified of it, which was out of character for her. I blessed it, and after I did that she jumped up on top and went to sleep. Weird but true.
Doing a refresher periodically isn’t a bad idea, especially if your family has been arguing a lot more than usual or there has been a run of bad luck. If nothing else, you will have done something to counteract the negative energy and your house will smell good. Sage can also be brewed into a strong tea and sprayed with a mister if you have sensitive smoke detectors.
Hope this helps.
Miss Kitty, It is good that you were aware that there might be some past history in a home or any item within that home. I haven’t found anything in the Bible regarding holy water or burning sage but I have read in many places where people anointed other people or objects with oil. Moses was even given a recipe that must have smelled lovely in Exodus. Aaron, his sons and their clothing were anointed with oil. Because of that, my home and the corners of my property, even my grandchild’s pillow has been anointed with oil. I know that is why I feel quite secure in my home, even though I may not be as prepared for trouble as many on this forum.
You have shown a great deal of kindness toward the other posters on this forum. Your comments are always nice to read.
What would some catholic relic have anything to do with blessing your home. As a Christian you have the power given by Elohim himself to drive out evil from your home. Get with a solid group of Christians and start a small church. You’re stronger in numbers then alone.
Miz Kitty, faith, not objects (like holy water) make the enemy run. It’s a focal point for the user to strengthen them. A lot of years ago, I moved into an apartment in an old building in coal country. Weird things began to happen AFTER I hooked up with a woman who, I much later learned was a Nazi. Nazis do not believe in God or demons, but call them all ascended masters who really wanna help humanity.
Mr. Piggy showed up, a thing the kids saw and hated them. It looked human with the head of a pig. No, no dopers in the apartment building. Voices from upstairs, where no one lived. Drunken laughter and arguments. Sounds like gun shots and someone falling down the stairs. Nasty nightmares, us fighting over nothing. It was always cold in there. The heat, and the landlord was trained in things like that, had to be set up as high as it could, but the place was still freezing cold.
Later learned: Molly McGuires used to live there (1800s). there was a bad argument one night and one was shot to death and thrown down the stairs. Mr. Piggy came from a bracelet made of a silver chain, animal paws, and boar tusks. I touched it, and only that when a friend asked me about it. Ice cold and I told him to burn it. He didn’t, but traded it to get rid of it. Eventually I read Psalm 91 in every room with all doors and windows open. Bam, no more problem. You were given the power. Much the same happened in Scranton to a family but they wound up selling the home because they were not believers. They even paid a priest to drive it out. The family who owns the house now had the same problems but commanded evil to get out. So far, 25 years later, the place is still quiet. You are the holy water, the living water of the Word is in you as God promised.
Miss Kitty, I agree that the Head of the Household should be the one to take the lead in the blessing and cleansing of the home. As I am not married, I am the matriarch of my family. In prayer, I needed to verbally state my legal status, thus my spiritually legal right to claim my territory under God’s protection. The whole process of cleansing needs to be done understanding our rights as Christians in God’s courts of law. The other commenters are right about not needing any physical items but I felt I needed the anointing oil as a statement, much like a seal next to the signature on a legal document.
IMHO the only sustainable place in a nowadays situation would be kind of a ship. You don´t
need anything sophistcated, an old fishing boat will do. Look at this old man who crossed the Atlantic several times, with just about 4 squaremeters of simple sails and a lot of time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bca5_uyH9E4
You can stay away from all looters, and it stores a lot more of food and fuel than even a big truck. To go to your boat, use small motorbikes, and do it just after the desaster.
If you make it down to the sea, you can live on fishing almost forever. While the woods will be quickly emptied by too many well armed hunters from big cities, the sea almost explodes with fish after the breakdown of commercial fishing (see the history of the Exxon Valdez desaster)
Also your firearms will work well to defend your boat against attacks, at least better than against a sniper attack in the woods.
Just my 2 cents …
A ship ? to many fun novels with that one my friend.
the ariticle brings up some valid points. One living in the big city is stupid and you’re going die. So if you haven’t planned or moved out…. Best of luck to you if you don’t have a prebuilt bug out location. the mythical idea of walking into the woods with a backpack and rifle is cool…. Sure look forward to finding your dead body with a high dollar pack and nice rifle in our woods.
the stupid thing of the “bunker…” ok lets be real the few people who can afford it…. nice but its so small that not to many are going to afford that option. however i would suggest putting money into a nicer cabin with some land…. (also move there so you can figure out the garden before you need it) Gardens are not exactly something i want to be playing with as it goes south.
At the rate we face….. we might be lucky with 12 months but the inflation costs are rising……to the point that most people can’t afford it anymore.
Basic things like sugar and oats have nearly doubled in price….. sheet metal is 7x the price it was and everything else is stuck on a ship. The once great country we knew is over….. and Venezuela is here.
I think i could last a year.. but it would be ugly.. much depends on the mystery of the combination of things that will happen. Of course if we had this internet, life would be more palatable. But that wish is unlikely. Sadly
You will be an easy target on the ocean.. All kind of traffic including modern day pirates.. Good protection if nukes are detonated though. Could somebody tell me all these acronyms please? Haha..
Frederick Brietweser:To which acronyms are you referring?
Shtf means “shit hits the fan”. That can be any disaster large or small, effecting just you (such as an illness or losing your job), effecting a relatively small group, (such as your apartment building or neighborhood being demolished by bad weather), or a regional disaster, (hurricane flooding, etc).
Teotwawki means “The End Of The World As We Know It” and usually refers to a national or global disaster that changes life for the majority of people. The Covid is a good example. WW II is another.
Other acronyms can be found online.
rscientist You have an idea but there will be pirates on the ocean. Every time you get near land you will be at risk.Thing is this, it matters not if your on land or the Ocean. It does not matter if you have millions of dollars to spend on survival. When the S hits the fan all your plans will go down the drain, when that first shot is fired. You learn this in service no plan survices after the first shot. You can have 10 plans and prep for eveything you hear something said about but it will be something unplaned for that gets you in trouble.
You cannot plan for something that might happen in the future all you can do is be smart enough to make a plan as you go.
It does not hurt to have guns, bows, spears, ammo etc. but you will be leaving most behind if you have to leave.
My plan is simple and that is not to plan any further then having a little ammo, a few different guns, fishing tackle, a small amount of seed and a little food. With this you can survive if you have the knowledge.
I said a few guns well 1 to hunt with(though you could hunt with an AR but it is loud and will be heard for miles), Side arm, A defensive gun such as an AR, Then I have a cross bow for silent hunting. I know most of these will be stashed but if one goes bad I can go to stash and get another.
The whole point is no matter how much time and money you spend it will not survive the first encounter with a group out to get what you have. You will not survive unless you do not fight them. Best to just let them have what ever they can find and move on. Then you will be able to return retrieve what you hid that they did not find and live.
R Scientist:
The main problems with a boat as a shtf refuge are the weather, lack of space and as others have mentioned, either pirates or other hostile entities.
In a true shtf situation reliable weather forecasts may not be available, leaving you at the mercy of severe weather. You may or may not have the skill set needed to ride out a nor’easter or hurricane, but a band of severe thunderstorms are also capable of damaging or sinking a boat.
The lack of space on board a ship is problematic as well for many people under the best of circumstances, and having all your preps on board may mean that you not only will have to be very selective about what you pack, but you have to be aware that if your boat starts taking on water, everything is going to be damaged. You will also need to be able to access fresh water and supplies, which could be problematic as port areas are likely to be full of people who at the least may try to rip you off.
Same thing with a hostile takeover by pirates or simply desperate people. The Cornish coast of England was infamous for the poverty stricken residents putting up false lights to deliberately lead the unwary onto the rocks to get wrecked. They would then salvage any cargo or supplies for resale or personal use. You also need to be aware that the Navy / Coast Guard may well go rogue if there were a total breakdown of society. I truly doubt that you are capable of standing off against a destroyer. And it’s not just our navy, but the Navy of every country along the ocean or sea you plan to sail. Smaller countries may be even more aggressive against solo ships, as their resources are more likely to be stretched thin quicker than the US.
As a suggestion, what might work better for you if you have the resources, a small island accessible only by boat might be a better option. If you have a group of people who are trustworthy, you could club together and divide the cost and labor, etc. This would also give you the option of growing at least a few food crops plus access to fresh water (hopefully).
Sorry to bust your bubble, but as a primary shtf plan there are definitely a few things that you will have to work out. That being said, I truly hope that my comments have been of help to you.
Good luck.
PS:
No disrespect meant towards the Navy or Coast Guard…just envisioning a worst case scenario.
Thank you for your service.
Miz Kitty, I didn’t think of all that about military going, but yes, it’s a common theme in writing and movies, so why not Navy. Enough pirates were Navy officers of different nations who went rogue. But, if Washington’s 3rd Valley Forge prophecy come to pass, no one on any coast will need to worry over it. niio
Living in rural Arkansas so we will be bugging-in with the kids & grand-kids bugging-out to our place (multi-generational property as a life’s troubles back-up long before “prepping” became a lifestyle). It always comes down to decisions we make or have the opportunity to make during our lives. With the far greater opportunity for remote working at great careers maybe it is time to relocate to a better – quieter – less exposed home or property as your normal life style then you are already half-way prepped. If you establish gardens and livestock (big or small) as part of your normal life then you eliminate one of the biggest prepping flaws, not being able to live the way you plan. We live a very comfortable country lifestyle which is 80% prepping anyway and only had to add on some alternative energy production and defense capabilities to meet our fully prepared goal..
As I said to rscientist you can not plan the future. For your bug out place where you will be buggin in at, I will make this suggestion hide, bury or diguise everything you want to keep before a Shift comes only get it out when you need it and put it back when your done using it.
The problem is no matter where you are there will be groups out to kill you and steal what you have.
That said if a violent group is coming then don’t engage them because you or some of your group will be killed or injured which will make your survival harder. Anytime you engage in a fight some of your group will be injured or killed and it does not matter if you won the fight or not. The Objective is survival for everyone.
So it is best to leave and let them have the place for a few hours or days depending on what you had there that they can find. Most of these groups will not stay long, just long enough to do a search for food etc. If you had it all hidden good enough for them not to find then they will move on.
The times you will have to fight is when you have a crop of food for the next winter that you can’t hide. Then you will have to fight them but fight them in a way they don’t like. Use gorilla warfare hit them and run a ways then stop and hit them again. Snipe them is best if you have someone that is a good long range shtooter.
Red, No worries about being curt. I am sorry that you have the sorrow of not having your brother here on earth any longer.
thank you. niio
Tee:
As the hymn says: ” God in three Persons, blessed Trinity”.
Just as you are “child” to your own parents, “parent” to your own children, “friend” to your friends, etc. , so then the Triune Godhead is all the same individual (God) in different aspects or roles. God the Father in the paternal role as Protector, Provider, Wise Counsellor and so on. Just as our earthly fathers gave us life, so God gives us life both physical and spiritual and fills our needs.
God the Son…Just as a good son cares for elderly parents and treats them with respect, so then God’s Son aspect is the embodiment of the love, honor and respect expected especially in the culture of Jesus’s time. Children cared for younger family members and the elderly, worked in the family business or farm and eventually took it over, and gave their parents the final say in everything. Children were often sold into slavery if the family was impoverished and were expected to cooperate if it was deemed necessary to keep the rest of the family alive. In many pagan religions, children were offered as the ultimate blood sacrifice, usually in dire times. Issac was to be sacrificed by Abraham, and although both were heartbroken, they obeyed God’s order that Issac be sacrificed. How could Jesus be less obedient? While Issac was saved at the last minute by God providing a ram to be sacrificed instead, Jesus WAS the Sacrificial Lamb of God, provided by God as our sin offering.
The third aspect is God The Spirit. The Paraclete. (Advocate or Counsellor). Just as we may offer advice to our loved ones, so then the Holy Spirit is that “still, small voice” that quietly whispers in our soul. It may nudge our conscience, give us a push to get us back on track, and points out those bursts of understanding that sometimes leap into our souls during prayer. It also is our Advocate in the sense that our Defense at the Great Throne Judgement is God Himself with The Satan (the word means roughly “prosecuting attorney”) pointing out our heavenly rap sheet. But since God is the Judge, Jury, and Defense Attorney, as well as the Sacrifice that paid off our debts or fines, the saved don’t have to worry about Satan being a slick talker.
I hope that helps you… I’m sorry it was long and involved, but it’s a complex thing to explain. The book of Acts is great for learning more about the Holy Spirit. If you are in a church, maybe your pastor can help you find more information.
Thank you Miss Kitty,
II did have a great pastor who had been studying with me. He retired. And I am a great believer in all Three members of the trinity. The Holy Spirit has effected me tremendously. I understand the concept. I just don’t “get it”.
Miss Kitty, Perfect explanation.
Sagebrush Lin:
Thanks. I try to help.
Oil is a traditional blessing medium used for centuries. Salt is another way to dispel evil influences. Use whatever prayer you are comfortable with.
Prepping is great, but don’t spend so much time and energy on it that you forget to live, laugh and love.
People who have that sign should be shot first…..
Hi all, Can anyone help me? I ordered the lesson on building a shelter and did not get. I called the 800 number and it is not working. Any ideas?
Send an email to Claude at https://www.askaprepper.com/contact/
I had a problem and waited for weeks on one book. I think they’re printed in Germany. niio
Thank you. I have my own idea for a shelter. But the air system I need help with. I’m behind the curve as I left over populated S Florida for north central fla.. As I had said before.. I am behind in my work as I am currently alone. Only the shelter is lacking. Well meds too..ha. Anyway .. there is always more we can do. Ty again and best wishes
Frederick: And you, be blessed. niio
FYI.. I had a New England farm where bartering was prevalent. Had livestock.. grew veggies and such. But mostly knew how to make something from nothing. Just bought this house last week.. I just want to add a good dog is everything and have extra can openers(many made in China).
Raven Prepper Tactical:
It is written in the Scripture that whenever two or more are gathered together in Jesus’s name and are in agreement, whatever they ask in Jesus’s name will be given to them. Group prayer is very effective for many situations, and is a source of comfort and support.
The use of holy water, blessed oil and other mediums has been going on for centuries with good results.
I suggested obtaining blessed water from a Catholic Church simply because it’s accessible to many, I’ve used it, and it worked. It’s not the only way to bless, nor is it the only denomination, but probably one of the best known. Your suggestion of a prayer/worship group is a great alternative for those who either can’t or don’t want to access a Catholic church. You can also do the blessing yourself. I would suggest that the head of household be the one to lead the prayers, as Biblical tradition states that the h.o.h. is the voice of authority and represents the role of high priest in the family unit. (That is why Abraham was taking Issac to the mountain top to offer prayers and sacrifice.)
Thank you for your input.
true just the catholic doctrine is more of a cult and not following any of the christian teachings or values.
Raven T:
While I try not to knock anyone’s sincerely held religious beliefs, the emphasis on tradition and papal decree over Biblical principles is one of the reasons why I am no longer a Catholic. The selling of indulgences during the middle ages is just one example. Nowhere in the Bible does it say anything about being able to buy your way out of hell.
Red:
Excellent point. And a creepy story. (The Molly McGuires were a pro union group trying to organize the coal miners, for those who aren’t familiar with them.)
Mr. Piggy sounds like a type of demon, and the bracelet may have been made as a type of portable gateway for summoning it. While any sort of violence and bloodshed attracts demonic activity, the Mollys weren’t particularly known for paranormal doings, so I’m thinking that the two things were unrelated but the negative energies fed each other. Too bad your friend didn’t take your advice and destroy the charm, but a lot of people simply don’t believe in the supernatural.
Did not receive anything yet!
I keep seeing articles about bugging out. But no body ever discusses one thing: HOW’RE YOU GOING TO PROTECT THE PLACE YOU’RE LEAVING?
I see articles about bugging out all the time. But those articles never mention one thing: HOW’RE YOU GOING TO PROTCT THE PLACE YOU’RE LEAVING?