The Amish have one simple rule, love each other. If the rest of the world followed suit, we would live in a much happier, more productive world where human starvation would be a thing of the past.
For many years I realized that the Amish have the world figured out and everyone else overcomplicates life in pursuit of the almighty dollar.
Truthfully, it is more satisfying to live a humble life than keep up with the latest technological advancements.
In any case, when a SHTF scenario presents itself, the humble will indeed inherit the earth. Here are 10 basic Amish survival hacks you might not know about.
The Amish Make Their Own Organic Fertilizer
The Amish make their own organic fertilizer.
For the most part, the Amish use animal manure as the basis for their fertilizer.
They believe that animal manure is the safest solution for making the soil as fertile as possible.
Not only does it provide all trace minerals, in addition to NPK, it is also ecologically stable and doesn’t cost a dime.
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The Amish also strategically plant their gardens and crops as certain plants like marigolds are grown next to vegetable crops because they reduce pest and insect damage.
Planting crops together that form a symbiotic relationship make for a healthier garden that doesn’t require toxic chemicals for pest control.
The Amish Grow Their Own Food Or Purchase Food In Bulk If Needed
The Amish grow their own food and eat what is in season while preserving everything they grow for winter.
They raise their own livestock and eat as much of the animal as possible including the innards, like the liver and heart, which are much higher in minerals than the meat.
The Amish use the bones to make soup and stock as there is nothing more nutritious than homemade broth.
While the Amish grow most of their food, if they need to purchase extra food they buy it in bulk. By purchasing food for the entire community at once, the rate they pay is significantly lower than buying food at the grocery store.
If you are just starting to prep or looking to add on significantly to your stockpile, purchase your food in bulk to save some money.
When the Amish spend money they only do so on necessities and don’t waste a dime on anything they don’t need.
If you do have some extra money laying around, don’t spend it on frivolous things, instead, use it to improve your preparation for a SHTF event.
Amish Cooking Secrets
The Amish don’t spend money on propane or electricity for cooking, as they cook over the fire. They use cast iron wood-burning stoves that are unmatched in quality.
The Amish eat farm-raised food with meat, milk, and vegetables as the staple for most meals.
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Amish recipes are passed down from generation to generation and they contain a wide variety of food options that can be eaten immediately and the excess stored long-term.
Food that can be canned includes meatloaf, chicken, turkey, pork, and vegetables.
How The Amish Preserve Food
The Amish are famous for canning food. At the end of fall, the Amish women preserve all the food they will need for winter immediately after harvesting the garden. One favorite Amish preserved food is sauerkraut which requires room temperature fermentation for about 10 days.
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When it comes to canning food, traditional Amish people don’t use a pressure cooker, but simply boil canned food for three hours to preserve it.
The Amish generally slaughter livestock in the winter so the ice-cold weather preserves it. Meat is also cured and smoked before canning it.
The traditional Amish keep food cold by storing it in an ice house or icebox in the summer. An icebox is similar to a modern-day cooler but is traditionally made out of wood. Large blocks of ice typically last between 5 and 7 days before they melt completely.
The Amish Create Their Own Cleaning Products
The Amish use vinegar diluted in water as an all-purpose cleaner.
Making the vinegar cleaning mixture begins by placing an orange peel in hot water, letting it steep, and then pouring the water into ½ cup of vinegar. To clean the floor, mix a few drops of olive oil into this vinegar mixture.
To clean the stove, the Amish use a paste created by a combination of vinegar and baking soda.
The Amish also make their own soap from lard, rainwater, and lye. While most preppers have hordes of cleaning products stored up, it is important to be able to make your own biodegradable cleaning products as well.
The Amish Collect, Filter, And Pump Water
The Amish collect rainwater that falls on their houses and structures. This water is channeled to a homemade filter typically built out of an oak barrel.
The oak barrel has small stones at the bottom, a layer of sand above that, charcoal above that, and larger stones at the top.
As the rainwater passes through the charcoal, impurities are extracted and any excess particulates are filtered out by the sand, leaving fresh potable water at the bottom.
Related: 100-Year-Old Way to Filter Rainwater in a Barrel
When fetching water from a well the Amish use a metal water pump that is manually operated. These pumps stand the test of time and should be part of any prepper’s off-grid setup.
At the very least, a manual water pump should serve as a backup for a generator-powered pump.
The Amish Use Lanterns And Solar Power For Light
The traditional Amish use kerosene lamps to light their home at night.
Many Amish people repurpose old items into a kerosene lamp or purchase kerosene lamps from the thrift store in order to save money.
Some modern-day Amish use propane as fuel for their lanterns and a few communities are even switching over to solar power to light their house.
The Amish generally wake up before dawn, around 4 AM, to do their chores. If it is too dark to see, they use kerosene lamps to illuminate their environment.
However, they prefer to use the kerosene lamps as little as possible. After taking care of the chores, the whole family spends quality time together.
The Amish Make Their Own Medical Supplies
The Amish rarely go to the hospital and many members refuse modern medical care. Instead, the Amish make their own medical supplies that include burn and wound ointment, which is a combination of burdock leaves, powdered charcoal, cornmeal, honey, aloe vera gel, and powdered alum.
The Amish also make what is called Super tonic to maintain their health. Super tonic is a mixture of garlic, horseradish roots, onions, ginger, and vinegar that many consume on a daily basis, especially through the winter.
The Amish treasure dandelion for its impressive health benefits. Dandelion is known to be a blood purifier, liver cleanser, and is a treatment for diabetes. Typically, the leaves of the dandelion are ground up, made into tea, and drank.
The Amish Mainly Use The Horse And Carriage For Transportation
The horse and carriage is the go-to way to get around and transport items throughout Amish society.
The nice thing is that a horse doesn’t require gasoline and a carriage can be easily repaired when broken. Moving around after a SHTF event is going to be difficult if there is no diesel or gasoline available.
Related: What’s the Best Fuel to Stockpile for Survival?
Having some horses and even a carriage makes it easier to go long distances and transport heavy items where need be.
While it may seem complicated, making your own carriage can be as simple as sourcing a small car trailer, modifying it to allow a horse to comfortably pull it, and taking control of the reins.
The Amish Are A Tight-Knit Group That Depend On Each Other
The Amish trade goods and services with other families in their community so they can barter for what they don’t have. For instance, Amish women make clothes from scratch for their families and trade garments for other necessities. The Amish have strength in numbers, as they all have similar interests and are willing to work hard for the basics.
Most preppers tend to keep to themselves, as they don’t want anyone else knowing that they are preparing for a SHTF situation.
While that is logical on many levels, the best way to survive after society breaks down is to form a tight-knit group with members who can all depend on each other.
The Amish Have The World Figured Out
The Amish have the world figured out and don’t depend on modern society. The truth is that technology is a house of cards that will eventually come crashing down.
If we take the time to secure items and prep now, we stack the odds of survival in our favor in a post-apocalyptic world.
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I’m in extreme eastern Tennessee. Is there an Amish family near here that I could visit and learn from?
Google Amish in Eastern Tennessee
I know there is an Amish presence near Sweetwater TN. We live in Kingston. There’s an Amish store you can shop at somewhere. My wife has been there, but I haven’t.
I would Google for “Amish store near me” and check that out first. The store personnel are used to the curious, and might have the answers you seek.
That’s pretty presumptuous to think that any Amish would want to teach you. There are a few thousand Amish in the country and a few hundred million who could benefit from learning their ways.
Dale: No, they do teach, but expect to pay cash or with labor. niio
There are plenty of books and documentaries online that one can also learn from. One can even learn a lot from the Lehman Store I Ohio. If you study the products for sale you can basically learn what you need to have to live the lifestyle. They are more than willing to answer an questions you may have aout how best to use them to!
The April 8, 2022 Amish article by Eric Wolff is fraught with challenges regarding non-Amish attempts to follow. For example: (1.) wood-burning stoves require wood. We are running out of wood sources, nationwide. (2.) If everybody had enough farmland to grow their own vegetables and animals, we’d need a lot more land and able-bodied workers. Also, here in California, we have run out of water.(3.) Using kerosene lamps inside is not recommended due to respiratory-inducing ailments such as bronchitis and asthma. Overall, I am a great follower of the Amish holistic way of life. If we had to rely on these options, some of us would survive. Keep on encouraging people to be ready when it does happen. You are most appreciated.
1. There is plenty of wood where I’m at.
2. If everyone had land, they could work it themselves.
3. Most of California’s issues are self-inflicted?
“Since 2008, 1.4 trillion gallons of water has been flushed into the San Francisco Bay to protect the Delta smelt, an endangered species of fish, from water pumps. That’s enough water to sustain over 6 million people for six years.” ~San Diego Union-Tribune 3/29/21
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/commentary/sdut-california-water-drought-2015dec02-story.html
Pretty good article, but I had to laugh at this statement: “While it may seem complicated, making your own carriage can be as simple as sourcing a small car trailer, modifying it to allow a horse to comfortably pull it, and taking control of the reins.” Have you thought through the skills needed to do this? Not to mention the training the horse would need to pull a basic wagon/carriage! You can’t just hitch a horse up and take control of the reins! That’s a recipe for disaster.
As a horse owner myself (with carts), I would also like to point out that you need to have the correct gear correctly fitted to the horse in order for it to be able to pull a cart, and the cart needs to be correctly balanced if 2-wheeled and does not exceed the ability of the horse to safely pull it under load and terrain. If you do not get all of this right then you will have a lame horse within hours. Animal welfare, training and use is no place for amateurs…get guidance and experience before attempting anything like this.
I agree completely!
I don’t own a horse but I know it can be expensive. They don’t mention the extra prepping for the necessities it takes to also care for and feed a horse as well.
Gatskins: A lot of people start learning by using a garden cart and a goat. Goat carts used to be common, and goat harness is a strap across the chest, and one over the withers to hold up the bars to the cart. If you can train a dog to obey, then a goat is easy. niio
Save a horse; get a pair of liberals to pull your cart.
Free: We made a trap, a cart/buggy with some old buggy parts and scrap wood. The seat sits over the shafts and the ride can get rough. This was most common till actual roads were being constructed. niio
https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/tennessee/amish-visit/
https://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/PubsForms/Publications/PUB%20632.pdf
It’s a red flag when people write using conjecture instead of experience. Sometimes it’s amusing, just kind of a mixed bag as to what’s rattling around in someone else’s brain.
“A flock of squirrels, suitably attired and trained, could be an alternate yet elegant mode of conveyance only for those with perseverance sufficient to attempt the endeavour.”
Lol.
You got me there. Making a carriage is overly ambitious and potentially unsafe. I regret including it in the article.
Erick anything left out of any article because of a perceived problem or danger will not fully help the preppers.
I agree this should have been stated differently and in a way that gives insight into the problems involved but to say it should not have been included is wrong. Because something not said is like our government not telling us the true by ommision..
I’m going to make this short and sweet – the Amish DO NOT have the world figured out.
They live closer to the way everyone used to live, but they still have plenty of problems. Read a little deeper into their culture.
Maybe you should go visit them and see for your self just like our Native Americans.
I am American Indian, and I’ve dealt with a lot of Amish. My late wife was raised Mennonite and her first husband decided to go Amish. Some were good folk, some great, most the only difference between them and the world is the way they dress. BTW, they stayed a year but her father-in-law was getting sickly and they were needed at home. niio
Some of this depends on where the Amish live at and what thier basic beliefs are. Not all Amish are the same. Some have taken to newer technology and others shun the newer things and use only the old ways.
The Amish are good people in any case and should you need to learn from them all you have to do is ask.
I have bought from one of their stores. The people that own the store is of the beliefs in using some newer things. I have read articles telling of them and their ways.
They are humans and so have the same basic problems all humans have.
They are called Mennonites & use some more modern items.
From a self-sufficiency perspective, the Amish have the world figured out.
We have shopped in Middleburg and Shipshewana. I watch Amish throw lots and lots of sugar-laden food in their carts and also baby formula and disposable diapers. Sadly, many Amish do this. I used to buy raw milk from an Amish family. We got to be friends and talked about anything. I told her what I had seen in the big Amish stores I mentioned above and she shook her head and said “many young Amish think buying that stuff is good, because it is less work.” Yes, I agree it is less work but…diabetes is rising in the Amish population, just like the non-Amish. And a lot more tooth decay. And when the SHTF they will be hurting. I know the elders will step in to re-train them but they will still struggle.
The comments are correct. Horses need to be trained and the Amish have their problems but I always take some inspiration for those living a more primitive lifestyle. I couldn’t make a knife until I made a knife or furniture until I made furniture.
It’s all good if it teaches, inspires, encourages or even if it demonstrates how not to be.?
Harness making in America isn’t what it used to be. The automobile industry killed it.
I knew of a place in the Bronx N.Y.C. That made and sold harness for freight wagons.
They later became an auto part store until they closed in the late 90’s
The Amish are great people. I used to regularly eat at their restaurants going into Lancaster Pennsylvania and Honnybrook PA. Their food has a great taste, and their pies are out of this world. Not everyone can live like the Amish. They do have to be respected for the way they live.
Not really an article of survival hacks. Interesting surface read.
I don’t understand this recurring idea of mixing vinegar and baking soda to make a cleaning product, or to mix them together as a drain cleaner. Chemically, vinegar is dilute acetic acid, and as weak as it is, it is at least able to work on some things, particularly oxides (e.g., rust), hydroxides (not much comes to mind with these), and carbonates (e.g., lime buildup on faucets). Baking soda (NaHCO3) is almost neutral, but slightly alkaline. If heated, it is converted into washing soda (2NaHCO3 + heat = Na2CO3 + H2O + CO2), and that is a good washing alkali. But to mix soda and vinegar merely forms water and sodium acetate. Forming water accomplishes essentially nothing useful, and its uses as a mild food seasoning or as a cement sealer, etc., don’t seem to have a lot of application to cleaning anything. All that mixing baking soda and vinegar does, really, is release a lot of CO2 gas and make a nice visual spectacle, as the potential of both chemicals dissipates in this reaction.
“sodium acetate’s uses as a mild food seasoning…”.
IIRC, the reaction has an intermediate step, where concentrations of carbonic acid and carbon dioxide are held in equilibrium until depletion of the limiting reactant, at which point, the reaction proceeds to completion. I suspect it’s the carbonic acid that produces the desired outcome due to differences in pKa/ionization versus those of acetic acid (it’s really been quite a while since I’ve had to think about the nitty gritty details of this stuff)
Bill,
The scientific formulas might not make sense but in a practical manner, baking soda mixed with vinegar works very well to unclog drains. Whenever there is a plugged drain around here, I sprinkle a generous amount of baking soda, followed with a generous amount of vinegar. It works very well, though with some really tough clogs, I have added hot water. I don’t even own a plunger because the above mix works so well.
In order to have light when there’s no power, bring in the solar lights that keep driveways and walkways bright in the evening, stick them in jars where needed and put back into the ground in the morning. They do need a battery once a year but I’m sure most of us have stocked up on these. Kerosene lamps were ok back when the breeze was coming through uninsulated walls but not now.
Actually kerosene lamps work great even today and give off a very relaxing light. To your point though I do only use them for an hour or two at a time.
Regarding kerosene lamps, and in fact any other type of combustion-based lamp or candle (especially petroleum-based ones), even short periods of use can fill a room with nanoparticles of soot, carbon monoxide and all manner of other combustion by-products. I’d not use them at all except when needed, or properly vented. To vent lamps and candles so you can enjoy their light safely you can do this quite easily by making a shelf to place your lamp on, on an outside wall, make two holes in the wall a couple of inches across that go straight through, seal the sides (i.e. plumbing pipe) and put a mesh, screen or vent over them. One hole is at the base of the lamp, the other a few inches above it. Then make up a 5-sided glass box (5 plates of glass siliconed together at the edges) that will fit over the shelf and lamp so both vent holes are inside the glass, and pop it on the shelf over the lamp (you can also nail a couple of pieces of dowel or similar onto the shelf/wall to keep it snugly in place. Now you can have the light using any kind of fuel source but without the dangers. You can also easily refuel the lamp and clean the glass just by lifting it off.
OR, set the lamp on the counter, open the adjacent windows and light the lamps… but thanks for the recommendations.
But then you just add draughts…not nice on a winter’s night. My point being to get the light, remove the dangers and preserve the heat retention of your dwelling.
Kerosene lamps do off-gas but Aladdin lamps have very little off-gassing. They burn hotter and brighter. When I was in a small home, I could tolerate the kerosene lamp for only an hour or so. The Aladdin lamp was left burning for several hours with zero evident off-gassing. The Aladdins burn bright enough to read by, while the kerosene puts off a duller light that is more difficult to read by.
Aladdin lamps are kerosene lamps but with a different wick and configuration. Yes they do burn cleaner than flat wick lamps.
They still have the same amount of off-gassing, but just less soot. The only difference is that the gasses are invisible and have little odour…but are just as toxic. One small lamp for a short period won’t hurt you. Over time it’ll add to the systemic pressure your body is under in a SHTF situation.
Davi
Loss of heat has not been a problem however I suppose it could be. As I said thanks for the suggestions.
Again … Thanks but I’m fairly sure I’ve got it. ?
I have been interested in the Amish for a long time. They already have a prepping community and survival is a sure thing since they will just keep going as they are doing now. The closer your life models theirs in terms of ‘little house on the prairie’ lifestyle, the less disastrous it will be if there is suddenly no electricity and modern technology. It is wise, and I would be doing just that if I could be. I studied the culture and yes there are ups and downs there as with many things. But they do well in many ways. It actually started in Switzerland, a true branch of Christianity that was in hiding and persecuted by the brand name religious powers of the day. They worked off the land and separated themselves and eventually migrated to the US. Many strict rules set in and have become tradition, yet some sects are different than others. I think it’s a great article.
After over 20 years of personal experience among Amish and other “plain” communities in three states, I can assure you they have one simple rule and it is NOT love one another. It is “Obey the man in charge without question.” This applies to families- which is why the rate of domestic violence and incest is massive. Then it applies to the bishops, who excuse the fathers without involving law enforcement and shame the victims into silence. Many very young girls wear full dentures because they talked about being touched or raped to an aunt or mother, who took them to the uneducated “Amish dentist” who used pliers without anesthesia to teach her a lesson to keep quiet about incest. Bestiality (sex with animals) is commonplace animal husbandry in the barns. Shunning, slander, and social bullying are tools for coercive control. Ex-Amish men run child trafficking rings using little girls and boys for tourists in Pennsylvania barns. WAKE UP! Read Tears of the Silenced by Misty Griffin. This is real- I know the Amish family she lived with. PLEASE do NOT direct people to follow this CULT!!! It sickens me how people “drink the Kool-aid” regarding this dysfunctional ethnocentric, misogynistic, unhealthy group of Luddites. We can reach out to neighbors where we each live, respect each other’s differences, and learn to build positive cooperative communities without idolizing ignorance and isolation. There ARE some honest “plain” people who acknowledge these terrible cultural problems and have genuine faith, but these are the exception, not the rule. Sorry if that came across harshly but innocent children in my family have suffered great violence from this cult and I cannot be silent while people are seduced by bonnets, baked goods, and buggies.
Sojourner, I do not have any personal experience with the Amish culture but have seen some documentaries showing exactly what you describe. It sounds like when they immigrated, they traded the abusive European Feudal systems they left behind and created their own versions of tyrannies in the “new world”. Definitely not for me or my family. Thank you for the insights and verification of the evil that exists and is condoned and hidden within Amish communities, which shows that the Amish may be just another form of cult groups under the tyrannical dominion of their elites.
What you say is ture to an extent. To how far this goes into the Amish community as a whole I do not know but I do know the Amish is like everyone else as far as the crimes and or crimes against children goes. You can not and should not judge all Amish by what one or two groups do.
As a Christian I will not judge least I be judged. What you have done is judge all Amish by what some did in the states you have seen. Do you Judge all cahtolics by what a few preachers have done? Do you judge all churches by what a few churches do? What you have said is the reason there is many different groups of Amish with different beliefs. Some groups started their own group just because of the way the group they belonged to was doing.
Cultism is bad if it is against Christ and the Amish are a cult just as churches are cults to some extent. People will say a Christian church is not a cult but ask your self what do cults do to force their people to stay in line? They use shunning mehods. What do churches do to people that question some belief or rule their church has. That person is shunned by people, church leaders and misiters not speaking to them until they comform.
I spoke to a very good friend who is a Methodist minister about cultism. He said most people believe the name cult applies to bad groups only but he went on to say Christian churches also use cultism techniques to keep thier parishioners in line.
Do not get me wrong if I see a child being abused then I will abuse the abuser to a point he may never be able to abuse another child but I will not judge him that is for God to do.
I can understand your disgust about the abuse of the children for it disgusts me too.
Dreaded, and that is part of the reason I am Agnostic and will remain so. Do I judge others? Yes. Am I willing to be judged? Yes. I will not join, support, or patronize any religion, sect, cult, ethnicity, or “community” if they have been corrupted, and if that includes the Amish, so be it. That is my choice, and I am content to live my life and die upholding an honest perspective, and if I am to be “judged” after death for being honest, so be it. Any “God” worthy of the title will know and understand.
another article with a mislabeled “title” because a lot of people already a have at a minimum a general awareness of the Amish lifestyle(s) and the skill they use, which are now often considered “survival hacks”. It’s good to learn a lot of the skills they use in their daily life, but for anyone not living the Amish lifestyle then it will be hard to invest in the equipment, time, and training needed to acquire proficiency in things like blacksmithing, animal husbandry and training, milling lumber, designing and building safe and stable structures, masonry, pottery, general carpentry and furniture making, wheelwright, tanner, making thread and cloth, sewing, basket weaving, locating and storing water, and so on. I recommend starting with the basics such as producing and preserving food, and making your own cleaning supplies, and see how it goes before trying to tackle too much and getting discouraged.
Dz I can agree with you about doing the minimum to start with. I do not think even if you get enough prperations to survive that any one person will gain all the trades that is needed to make a new society. It will take many people with different skills that is the reason for the barter system so you can trade for what you need. Be it a harness for a horse, a buggy/wagon, or some building project like a shelter. There will be people with different skills and the will band together evenntualy if anyone survives. This will be the only way to start building for comfort and leasure.
I don’t understand this group here on the site. There’s not an article written where a good percentage of you think you know better and bash the s**t out of it! I enjoyed the article and, with the exception of the comment about how making a trailer and taking the reins is a bad idea, most of the comments, including generalizing that all Amish are into incest and beastiality, are appalling! I frequent an Amish bulk store to get many of my supplies. These are good people who DO have the world figured out. Like anyone, they aren’t without their problems. But they have it figured out in that they aren’t relying on the crap we rely on nor are they addicted to technology like most of us are. It’s pretty refreshing to see Amish teens actually living rather than being in a trance while staring into phones.
LOL.
To really understand what most in this group is doing with what you call bashing is to give a different veiwpoint.The thing about prepping is that we (at least most of us) know we do not know the best ways. So we bash as you call it to get things started that open up different views of the subject. Without challenge the subject goes stale and dies a death before anything of real value is learned. The publishers of this site does not give the full details ? and I think they want people to discuss it so people can learn different views. Experienced/expert Prepper does not mean he/she knows everything they only think they do. ? I am no expert Prepper. I know very little but I can survive because I am a redneck country boy and know how to make do. ? lol ? lol ?
As to the Amish I agree with you. The person who is against them and made those comments probably has seen only the bad side of the bad groups.
No matter if a group has bad things going on, there still may be good people in that group that can do nothing. But there is branch off groups that are good and some of the originals are good.
As to making harnesses I have not tried to make any but I do understand they need to be made in a way that puts the least stress on a horse. Now buggies on the other hand can be made by almost aynone that knows how to balance out a load on it. So I don’t agree with the comment about the buggies and harness. You do what you have to in a WAWKIE.
As to addiction to technology. I guess you could say I am addicted to some extent. But I do not watch much TV and cell phones I use only when I have to. My computer which I used to view what is happening in the world, play solitare and communicate with family members that are distant. I am retired but still do some repair work when I have it ( I had rather be doing repairs then typing on this thing).
Dreaded, you may be underrating yourself saying you’re not an expert prepper. I would consider anyone that is “a redneck country boy and knows how to make do” has the attitude, knowledge, and experience that it takes to adapt and overcome the many obstacles that life throws at us. The willingness to keep learning is probably the most important thing everyone should try to do.
And I do agree that trust has variable levels and must be earned. For those that think otherwise, do you trust every sales pitch and “news” sent your way? Or are you skeptical enough to do some research to verify if what is presented is valid, even if it something like enrolling your kids for sports, summer camps, or clubs like the Boy or Girl Scouts. Do you know the people running the program? Do you truly know the people you are entrusting with the safety and wellbeing of your kids? A lot of predators hide behind “respectable” positions and titles, often being covered up for years instead of being investigated and prosecuted. A lot of elderly folks keep getting ripped off by evil Scam artists because they often trust without verifying. Reagan was right: “trust, but verify.”
I think most people would be very surprised what they could do if they only try it. Perhaps not a masterpiece at first but each time the product improves. I love to try new things, ne builds, new projects. I’ve been doing leather work for years. I’ve never made a harness but ill bet I could copy one quite nicely.
dz to answer your question …NO I don’t trust everyone infact my trust starts and stops with family. I do agree that there are degrees of trust. Trusting anyone completely can be dangerous regardless of how well you know them. We all have varying views on nearly everything on this site and as long as you are comfortable with your view all is well.?
Seriously, you must not read all of the “the writer is a dumb***” and the “what a worthless article” comments I see. And if you think those are just to spawn conversation and discussion, you’re completely off base. When I was talking about technology, I wasn’t talking about us I was talking about teenagers. I said amish teenagers didn’t walk around with her face in a trance staring at phones.
Every culture has a dark side.
Hey even the Force had a dark side…
Though I have respect for the TRUE Amish because of their simple way of life, I do have a few objections. I originally come from northeast Ohio where Amish people are prevalent and there are very few in that area that actually follow true Amish ways. For example, many of them have cell phones, many of them have electricity, and you will see them at grocery stores, and clothing stores etc. buying the same things regular people buy. They frequent bars and restaurants, they drink and smoke, they don’t leave tips to servers, and overall are not a very friendly lot. They speak their own language around “common folk” so no one knows what they’re saying. The idea that they are completely primitive is simply not true. They pick and choose what “modern conveniences” they will use and which ones they will ignore. They ride their dimly lit buggies on roads and highways causing MANY accidents, their horses poop all over the road and their metal wheels cause ruts in the pavement leading to potholes causing “regular” people with vehicles costly repairs. They do not have to pay taxes such as social security and medicare, however, they are at doctor’s offices and hospitals when they need treatment. In my opinion, if they are going to defy the laws that the rest of us have no choice but to follow, then they should be banned from using public roadways and public services until they conform.
you mean Dutch German…. go learn it yourself
Where should horses s**t….. the buggys cause ruts lol…. Ok… they weigh nothing…..
So what if they drink and smoke
you know they pay cash for the medical …. and nobody should pay taxes
The long and the short of it is. LEARN SOMETHING and KEEP LEARNING ! If you know a skill, be willing to teach it to another. Be just as willing to learn another skill, and another, and another. It is so much better to have knowledge in your brain, than in your computer. You don’t have to be like, or become like the Amish, in order to learn from them. It is the same with the Native Americans. There is a great deal of knowledge that can be learned from their history. All you have to do, is to be willing to start LEARNING. Above all, learn how to live WITH the land. Instead of living OFF of the land.
There is a whole lot more, and a whole lot deeper I could go about this. But for now , I’ll climb down off of my soapbox. LOL.
The key message I understand from this article is that everything works out more efficiently when in a group. Bulk purchases and working together on projects is something many of us are missing. Many of us live alone and have done so for years; it would be a stretch to learn to live together with others. Some prepping groups have figured it out but I believe that there is a high number of us who are having a difficult time of giving up their own space and autonomy.
Amen Sagebrush Lin. I have been alone since my wife died years ago. Kids are still around but they are adults with their own lives. All of my preparations have been with going it alone in mind. Certainly I would take care of my kids if necessary but I’m not willing to join forces with people I can’t possibly trust.
WMD, trust is earned not given. Just as you can’t possibly trust someone because you have already made your mind up about them they could not trust you. To go by what others have said about someone or some group is not what I do. I find out for myself.
I am not saying to trust anyone (which I don’t give my trust out easily) but what I am saying it takes takes time to develope trust in someone. It is never an instant thing. I have had people that I thought was friends and thught I could trust only to find out I could not trust them. So I Trust only those who have proven they are worthy. Since I am honest and do what I say I will do then people who know me trust me. They trust me because I do not make any predeterminations’ about anyone and because I am honest.
Would I give my trust an Amish person or anyone for that matter to start with no but I would deal with them and be friendly toward them until I could see if they are trust worthy or not. The only wa to find out if someone is trust worthy is to get to know them.
Dreaded we each have our ways and ground rules for how we live life. However as far as I’m concerned. You are very wrong about trust. Trust can not be earned. Either you trust a person or you don’t. Somewhere along the kine someone said trust had to be earned… it don’t… it is a feeling not a reward. … Some of the few people I trust are my kids. Never have the done anything, never passed any test to earn my trust… I simple FEEL that I can trust them .
Please tell me what is the test you use to establish trust…
On the other hand it is possible for someone to lose my trust through an act or action AND once trust is lost, trusting again is next to impossible.
I invite you to reevaluate trust and see if perhaps earning trust is an incorrect idea.?
That is easy. Trust is only gained if I can turn my back on you and know you have my back just like I would have yours. Trust is never because you feel you can trust someone. You have to know the person and know what he would do if you depended on him. As for your children you know them so you know if you can trust them or not.
I am a redneck country boy was raised both in country and city. So I know about both kinds of people and I have also learned to tell when a person can be trusted and when they can’t but this takes time to trust but it takes very little time to know when you can’t trust. People usally show their true colors in a very short time. This means it is earned because to know someone you have to be around them for a good while. They earn this trust by being trust worthy and the deeds they do.
Example would my next door neighbor.
I moved in here 6 years ago. I did not meet him for about 3 months because he used his house next to me only every so often. When I did meet him I found he was an alcoholic but got drunk only on weekends. I did not make any snap judgment about him. One day a drug user came up and was very belligerent. See the house I moved into had been used by drug pushers. I told this guy to leave the pusher no longer lived here but he would not before I could show him my gun my neighbor who was near and heard everything showed him his and in very few words told him to leave or he was dead. So he had my back without even thinking about it. That is how you earn trust. You earn trust by the deeds you do. Not by any feeling. My neighbor trusted me because he seen what I did and how I went about things. He gave me a key to his house in case I needed in for some reason. I gave him a key to mine.
He is not one to trust people but he goes about it the same way I do.
So to me feelings have no play in trusting.
Well Dreaded I guess we are going to disagree. What’s important is that you’re comfortable with your way and I am comfortable with mine. Good luck in all you do.
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Another thing about trust:
There is also many levels of trust. The types of trust vary on your relationship with the person.
Such as I do some small engine repair, I do not give my customers full trust because I have no way of knowing in a bad situation if they would run or have my back. But I might trust them to pay at a later time if the person used my services for a time. But would I trust them in a bad situation? no I would not depend on them for help.
Trust falls in line with friendship. There is many levels of friendship.
Causual friend: One you might see once a month or go over and have dinner with. But if something happens that he has to have your back he doesn’t.
True friend: One that no matter what happens he will be your friend and have your back.
Again we each have our way. I’ m sure your way works for you as mine does for me.
Yes we both have our ways. Good luck to you and may life bring all you hope for.
Many years ago, long before I had any thoughts of preparing for an emergency situation, I read one of those dumb Amish character romance books while on vacation. I hated the book, but I realized then that the societal structure of the Amish gives them an advantage to survival in an emergency for three reasons: They grow and preserve their own food. They are used to living without all of the modern technology that we so dependon.
They live in close knit communities, which most of us do not. I think that silly, mindless story have me the first seed of the need to do at least a little prepping for whatever May come down the pike.
I like the articles that are published in this blog for the ideas they give me for furthering my 0430034 skills. I am still very new to the practice, but I rarely read any of the comments. They always seem to degenerate quickly from a constructive discussion to a virtual blood bath.
WMD,
I have done leather work as far as making holsters for guns amoung other things. I know the basics of tanning but I have no desire to tan hides. I would if I needed to. Here is a blog I setup many years ago but never really got into blogging. I decided to make a short blog on Prepping and shhow show a peice of leather work I did for a friend.
https://cwunderwood.wordpress.com/2022/04/10/prepping-skills/
That is a good looking holster Dreaded. It looks like our skill level may be quite similar. I have made holsters, knife sheaths, belts, various size cases for tools and such. I am a very fortunate guy as I seem to be able to do whatever I set out to do and am always looking for something new to try.
There are very few left that can work leather. You and I are a part of a class of people that is declining. Since you can work leather it says a lot about your skills. Because the knowledge and art work it takes to make leather products can be applied to many other things. I know of maybe two or three others and they don’t do leather work for a living and they are like me just a hobby.
Dreaded…?
Friends,
Who do you think has the best chance of surviving a WAWKIE event?
Is it the Amish because they live life in using the old ways, a prepper that has a high dollar bunker, a prepper that uses all the they have learned and is open minded or just good old country boys that know how to make do?
For me I think of it this way. The Amish has less chance of surviving then a prepper with a bunker that does not learn and has a closed mind. You ask why because they will be targeted by the hungery masses because everyone knows about them. Then you have the bunker builders that will be next at having less chance of survival. Most of them build because they are to lazy to learn and do. They think by putting back a year’s food that they will survive but that year’s food will run out and then where will they be. Then you have the preppers that learn and keep an open mind ready to change depending on the situations. These people stand a better chance because they are willing to learn. As to the good old country boys they stand about the same as the preppers that are willing to learn because they have been forced by circumstances to learn to survive with what they have. Mostly those old boys know how to use what is around them, do not fully depend on technology, they are not very well known about and live out in the country.
As to people who prep as a group that depends on how well known they are to others, there location and how well they have defensive systems set up.
dreaded: You mean traditional Amish. Most are no longer traditional. Like the wife used to say, they cut down the orchards and buy fruit to sell. Most don’t even bother with a vegetable patch and they buy canned stuff, not do their own. Amish gunsmiths used to make guns. now they do repairs and don’t bother to learn how to rifle a steel rod or turn springs. Some, the White Canvas Top Amish, are strict but even they aren’t as they were. In order to keep teenagers from leaving, all of them are getting more modern. niio
It’s a difficult life and people are people. People see an easier way of life, many will adopt an easier way or parts of it. I would imagine, working with a team of horses everyday and seeing the neighbors John Deere eventually gets to you.
WMD: Strict upbringing, constant gossip, and so on, all make kids walk away. Those who stay in ag usually join the Mennonites, but Mennonites lose family, too. niio
Dreaded, what does WAWKIE mean? I tried looking it up but didn’t find any definitions or acronyms.
WAWKIE “World As We Know It Ends” I saw this on some site don’t remember which one. This means the same thing as the other abbreviations some that is shorter such as WWKE “World We Know Ends” that means our way of living changes. It means the present life style is gone and you have to adapt a new life style (or old one depends on how you look at it).
Dreaded, thank you for clarifying, makes sense to me. And yes, just like our ancestors before us that planned ahead in case disaster hit, they prepared, and we prepare because that is how we choose to live. It’s not what you do for a living or where you live, but what you can manage to do when things go wrong.
Also it can be used as an event happening such as; A WAWKIE event just occured or is occuring.
Dreaded, your consideration of the various type of people’s ability to survive has solid basis but no one will really know until the circumstances are presented. I expect there will be a lot of anomalies such as the people who have prepared well might still die directly from the SHTF event, or afterwards from violence, disease and infections, starvation, weather events, earthquakes, floods, wildfires, even accidents like falling and drowning and such.
Have you also thought about the possibility that any “survivors” from an End Of The World As We Know It (EOTWAWKI) event might revert back to slavery supported cultures like the Egyptian, Roman, Greek, Persian, Mayan, and so many other prominent cultures throughout history? I think most of any surviving Amish would be considered too valuable to be slaughtered and instead might be enslaved by other “cultures” for the knowledge and labor. I expect there will be a lot of survivors that are willing to do so by preying on others.
The people surviving in bunkers may or may not survive the SHTF event, or the following aftermath of those who are desperate, but as you mentioned, if they have not learned the skills needed to survive, when they do emerge they may not have the knowledge, skills, and attitude required survive the harsh conditions. They may also be east targets to other “survivors” willing to prey on others.
As for “good old country boys”, if you mean farmers, ranchers, homesteaders, and many others that learn by both education (schools, books, internet, and from others, especially knowledgeable elders) AND hands on experience, planning ahead, making do with what is available, and being creative enough to adapt to whatever needs to be done, then I would those folks are preppers. I grew up in a small logging/fishing town on the Oregon Coast, learned a lot about how to survive in that environment (hunting, fishing, bushcraft), then joined the military and traveled to foreign countries, learning from and adapting to those circumstances when I could, and now I’m in Southern Kalifornication and am currently trying to learn about how to produce vegetables, fruits, and herbs by container gardening. I’m still a novice, but getting better at it. Some things I have little or no knowledge or experience, such as locating underground water and well digging, livestock care and breeding, the “smithing crafts” like blacksmithing and tanning leather, but other things I am very comfortable with such as sheltering from the elements, making fires, and using hand tools for minor repairs and projects. When I can, I would rather learn to do something for myself than hire someone else to do it for me, but that all depends on the skills and physical abilities required. I will repair, replace, and install things around the house to include sinks and faucets, electrical outlets, doors, windows, flooring, and build my own fences and irrigation systems, but I will need to hire professionals for things like replacing the roof and installing a solar system.
Your are correct in what you just commented. I did not fully elaborate on all of it.
No I have not considered the slavery issue that would be present but now I will.
As to the good old boys lol yes they could be considered preppers but for most of them it is a life style and think of preppers in a slightly different way. To me which I am one of those good old boys but not a farmer and just started a few years ago actually real prepping so I consider myself a prepper, Oh I have always had some stuff put back for emergency. I think of preppers as people who started prepping after the recent events show a real possibility of EOTWAWKI happpening. So that is the reason I put them in a slightly different catagory.
As to the Amish you could be right if they survive the first onslaught which I do not think will be people grouped together with a set leader. They would probably be inslaved if a group had forethought and planned an attack as soon as an event happened. Thank you it brought new light to me on subject..
Dz: Donno about breeding livestock. They’re been doing it on their own for a lot of generations… 🙂
The Amish will be wiped out. People believe them to be wealthy (not true) because they do not spend every nickle burning a hole in their hand. People believe they have a year’s supply of food on hand, also wrong, because most make a trip to the store every week. While they can hitch a buggy, they often can’t make repairs. Nor do many know how to train a horse let alone a heifer calf to be a milk cow. That money they’re all supposed to have goes to the kids as fast as they marry and leave. It’s for dowries and land, livestock and tools.
Slavery will be a real issue. America has over 400,000 slaves, most of them small children. Slavery is an evil no liberal can resist, and it’ll grow open if SHTF lasts very long. Look at when Trump said he promised to fight against slavery in the US. That was when all hell broke out against him. But, we dropped from 500,000 slaves to under 400,000. When he closed the borders, the nazis shrieked hate because most slaves are brought over the border.
I know a little about smithing, mostly I never want to shoe another horse, but can make things on the forge (a lot of tools ‘disappeared’ after my brother-in-law passed away–his kids helped themselves). But, I was collecting what is needed. Knives were a hobby. Guns are beyond me but I can turn a leaf spring into a short sword or a crossbow. Knapping stone, bone, or glass is easy to learn. Fletching is easy. Arrow shafts are easy here because we have a lot of oleander, which tends to grow straight, and is a light, strong wood. The kids learned most of this, and that includes working with and training horses, dairy animals, and training dogs.
What I lack is health 🙂 But, I also collect books explaining how things work and what to expect post-SHTF. Family and neighbors will benefit from that even if I can’t. The garden is dug deep, 3 feet and more, and caliche removed, then replaced with high carbon material. Indians do that because it turns to humus, which breaks down to nitrogen and CO2, and holds moisture well. Humic acids break down caliche, and fights high-mineral water.
Learn how to horse-trade! Trading is how to survive in style. niio
Clarification:
I am not “against the Amish”. I just see them with my eyes wide open and warn others to do the same, as would the best of their own people who admit serious problems. We spent many years intentionally building relationship in many locations of predominantly Anabaptist (Old Order Amish, Mennonite, German Baptist, Charity Gospel, …) groups. I have had Anabaptist friends, family members, and business partnerships. We were immersed in the culture and I do understand the language. The relationships I am describing go above “shopping in the bulk store”. Notice that the bulk stores contain a lot of processed foods and sugar. Amish boil the nutrition out of most vegetables and fruits by canning at high temps; they have poor dental health, high rates of diabetes type 2, genetic defects, and mental health disorders. Children have rotten teeth, rickets, and scurvy frequently. Health care is paid in cash, communities pool funds for large emergencies, and elder care happens at home so they do not pay or use Social Security if they are real Amish. They do have “alternative doctors” in the community that use some bizarre techniques passed on from ancient German shamans. Education stops at 8th grade for the fortunate and much earlier for many. The “teachers” also have an 8th grade education. Textbooks are produced by Amish suppliers and omit subjects like science, national or world history, and any mention of war, sex, or other cultural perspectives. The Bibles used on Sunday by the bishop only, are written in High German and cannot be understood by the members. Otherwise, they would be able to challenge the faulty theology and think for themselves. Critical thinking and discernment are our most important preparedness tools. These are highly discouraged because they conflict with the Amish doctrine of uniformity. Truth is not valued; going along with the majority is taught from birth. If they don’t do this, they are not Amish. This is why I do not believe they are a good example of preparedness. Also, the doctrine of non-resistance causes the men to suppress their God-given instinct as protectors of their families and communities. Misogyny then dehumanizes and removes empathy. This is the root of the dysfunctions I stated earlier. Do all Amish men molest their children and/or beat their wives? No. But do they know of many who do and do nothing to protect? Yes. Or they would not be Amish. These behaviors are statistically higher than in the general population and it is reflected in the high rate of genetic deformity from incest. This is fact not opinion. Preparedness works best when each part of a community is treated with mutual respect, honesty is expected, people are held accountable for harming others, and we all keep our personal critical thinking skills active. Sharing knowledge is not “judgment” or “bashing”. Learn to plow with horses from an Amish neighbor. Learn to keep food cool in ice houses. But keep your minds open and do not romanticize this group.
Sojourner, again thank you for your honesty. Unfortunately, many on this blog will refuse to research thoroughly and will therefore reject anything that does not conform to their “comfort” zones. I would like to learn many of the skills used by the Amish, but I sure as Hell don’t want to join any cult / culture that condones abuse and covering it up by intimidating the victims. Sounds like another form of tyrannical dictatorship that survives by indoctrination and intimidation, and therefore should be avoided and discouraged.
There are likely things that can be learned from any primitive culture whether Native Americans, Mormons, Philippine farmers or off grid groups. WE all just need to use our heads, learn what we can and leave the rest.
Thank you for your honest opinion. The previous comment of yours sounded like you were against all Amish is the reason I made the comment about not all being the same. The way you put it is honest and probably correct. I never intended to declare they were without sin or problems for we all have sin and problems that we have to deal with.
One reason Amish do not generally starve is because they do not breed like vermin.
Amish are similar to our founding fathers in the USA.
They do breed but you don’t see them taking the Gov handout money like the rest of the trailer trash bashing them the amish on this page.
Lets face it they have their lifestyle and while i agree that they have a strong ablity to thrive in a world without power. The Amish Community near Laymans hardware store is practically a micro community that i would comfortably say could run on without the issues of mondern stores.
just remember folks the Pagan holiday of Easter is coming and Christians have forgotten to celebrate Passover. Instead they allowed the pagon catholic church to make a fertility holiday and try and pass it off as christian.
commuist ? oh geeze the 80s would like to take that joke back.
Sorry you must be giving up life for Lent because your Pagan leadership told you to….
Sorry you dont bother to learn the history of what the roman catholics did to destroy the bible and keeping the Laws of Elohim YHWH.
raven: No, easter is not a pagan holiday. It’s pesach. The month is fell in as called Eastorash moon or something like that. The idea easter was pagan started with atheists in the 1500s.
Easter is literally a pagan name but ok
raven, no, it’s been disproved. Easter was the name of a month. This is where the term easter month came from. Behave, love is all around you, accept that.
https://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends/ancient-pagan-origins-easter-001571
I mean the Egg and rabbit are all sympols of Pagan false god worship going all the way back to the egyptian times.
Yes you been tricked by the Pagan catholic church into thinking worhiping on sunday and easter is for christians when it wasn’t….
raven: You mean you go to uber-liberal sites for information about religion? Now, that’s funny! The people who write these articles are amature wannabe anthrois, not professionals. This is personal opinion. But, here’s a little something about your friends, the dems. https://uafreport.com/daniel/newly-released-video-of-capitol-police-may-exonerate-many-jan-6-protesters/
the q idiots who went to the capital on jan 6th…. where fools who did exactly what the cia and other side wanted them to do. Show up like idiots and get tricked by the gov.
Sorry the smarter people knew that jan 6 was a trap.
https://youtu.be/C7L4CEJrWKE
check out the easter pagan roots.
https://youtu.be/2OQmg8i3PiA
Zach is a pretty good speaker on this.
raven: that’s funny, thank you! Did you know over 20% of Millennial Jews believe in Christ? And the number grows like crazy. Why don’t we celebrate Pesach? Because we don’t. Pesach was a foretelling of resurrection, but being a Sadducee, you would believe G’d, anyway.
Once again Raven Prepper has enlightened all of us with his wealth of knowledge. It seems to me that your education stopped around the 8th grade as well based on your capitalization and grammar skills. Although I appreciate your ability to stir things up and get conversations flowing, your nastiness and snide remarks are uncalled for. Clearly you are not an expert when it comes to the Amish, as you have contributed nothing to the conversation except for bashing those who have.
well we found the Pagan Catholic here.
Sure i live 10 miles from the Amish and often buy from them. Our wood cook stove was from a Amish vendor and its one they typically use in their own homes. I do enjoy the stores and the farms they have. They do have a good knowlege base on growing and a hard work ethic.
While like ANY people some are corrupt and some are good decent people.
I am glad to have some people who have the skills and understanding on the old way of life. 95 percent of the couch farts here will stroke out anyways. ranting how they will start a garden when their welfare checks run out.
red, are you familiar with White Buffalo?
Hey “Charlie Foxtrot”, what are you going to do to help counter any anticipated food shortages? Are you going to keep posting BS c**p criticizing others, or get off your lazy incompetent a** and do something positive for a change? Inquiring minds want to know, please post some honest replies for a change.
I know you have some limited knowledge and skills, so why is it so hard for you to post it in a user friendly and understandable context without insulting others? That failure is on you the “instructor”, not the student.
dz: white Buffalo, if you mean religious, yes, but us swamp rat woodlands folk followed Etsi Awi, Mother of Deer. Buffalo is a Wolf symbol.
You do not pour gas on a fire. Raven is a very ‘pagan’ name and apparently some Swissconson pagan is guilt-tripping. Too much vodka, maybe.
Answering him in kind is how to battle. He used sites that get their information from anti-theist sites. What a bunch of left-wing loons. English speakers are the only ones to call Passover Easter, which means Lord of the east, which is Christ. That’s from the
German. In every other language, it’s Pesach, Passover.
I’m sorry if I’m not clear. Been a rough week, what with the 11th and all. One year to the day, my son died. I had to go to the allergist, then buzzed all over Tucson before crawling home and collapsed in bed. That was the last night to say goodbye, and I made bloody marys, sort of. Donno how I managed to last a couple of hours, but i managed about a pint LOL. Got up hours later, fried up eggs (best basted in smoked lard, like from bacon), and went on with life. niio
NCO to NCO…. yawn…..
You retired or got out years ago…. It was a job not a life style you stilll live. however i am sure you got your DD214 and i am a vet bumper sticker plastered on everything you own. Along with th fuddly hat saying i served….
Anyways i wasn’t able to respond was to busy in the garden expanding it for the next few beds and clearing out the brush into the wood line for compost piles.
sorry if my explanation of why we should be celebrating Passover which Jesus himself did with his crew before he died on the cross. Anyways go worship your fetility goddness and enjoy the bunnys and eggs
raven: I tried to explain, Easter means master of the east, not a female elohim. It is Passover. Most of it is very much Passover. Only Germanic speaking people, English and Germans, call it easter. All other people call it passover. Bunnies were added in the late middle ages. they are not and never were part of Ashtoreth/Asherah/Ishtar or any other pagan religion. They’re considered bad luck. why would anyone worshiping the thousands of elohim want to call on something that makes Friday the 13th look nice?
Red Easter has nothing to do with passover…. The added things like eggs and bunnies are all pagan related to the feritity gods…
Passover should be celebrated and Jesus added the in addition to of having communion at the end. thats if you wish to follow the law and what you’re supposed to do. Not supposed to be doing pagan worship to appease your pagan friends the Catholics.
Alum is aluminum. Maybe it works, but do you want to paint yourself with aluminum? Mother would put alum in pickles for crisping. It does get into one’s body. It isn’t really healthy for people.
Jan: scary thought, but yep. niio
https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-alum-608508
red, I opened your link and read “It is also sold as a large crystal as a “deodorant rock” for underarm use.” and realized this is Tawas, Philippine / Asian deodorant crystal, and I still have a chunk stashed in the medicine cabinet. It works and lasts.
I was curious so I searched for “what is powdered alum?” and it came up with:
https://www.bing.com/search?q=what+is+powdered+alum%3F&cvid=43a1ae9ce74b425cb2f31d35b5c36fe7&aqs=edge..69i57j0l3j69i64.10653j0j1&FORM=ANAB01&PC=U531
and had this posted:
“What can I use instead of alum powder?
What Are The Top 10 Alum Substitutes?
Lime. The first option on the list is lime. …
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Herbs. …
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Dz there is another way to combat this Ravem nut. That is for eveyone to ignore him completely. If he is completely Shunned then he will eventually stop posting because he will not be getting the attention he wants which is what drives his insane comments.
From now own I will not resond. I have given up on trying to enlighten him to reality. He is of the type to never change. He will eventually end up like the bull in an arena that continues to charge even though he will be killed by the matadors.
If a person cannot adjust then that person has much less chance of survival. Raven can not adjust.
the person that is going to survive is the one withe biggest gun
It’s not the size of the gun it’s how you use it…?
Lucky for me then
You are correct as far as you took it. It is how you use a gun(how accurate you are not the size). It is also knowing when to use it, and what the outcome will like be of using it.
For instance using the gun alerts others that just may be enemies to your location. Then if your place is being search by whom ever and you use your gun to defend you can not be sure of how many there are so you could be signing your own death warrent. Actually there is many more disadvantages of using a gun then there are of not using one when your location is not known.
For myself I will use gorilla tactics. Move slow and catch the enemy unaware and use a knife or hatchet to take him out quietly. Then take the next one quietly until discovered and then us me gun and move after each shot. If you select your vantage point correctly you will have an exit and go to another advatange point with an exit and so on until either your killed or there is no more enimies.
Lol yeah just go use a knife ? and get in a fight vs a gun lol. Gotta love the insanity of what people think will happen in a fight..
the people that are going to survive are the ones that have prepared in advance, manage not to be killed from the initial SHTF, and are smart enough to maintain their situational awareness and figure out how to deal with whatever obstacles they encounter.
Aren’t those pretty much the ones that have always survived…
gorilla tactics vs. guerilla tactics… you be the judge.
lmao so i can’t spell
Dreaded, no problem… you do well enough to communicate.
My subconscious, though, starts thinking about the differences between what we know as guerilla warfare and what gorilla warfare would be like if we were to adopt it as a fighting strategy….
I believe you are correct in your thinking. The problem I see is in normal guerilla warfare you would be attacking fixed positions, setting up ambushes and hit&runs. In an event this would be used in tactics where say your camp was attacked and they made off with things you need so trailing them and hit and run would work to take them out. Or if you know your going to be attacked and from where it will come from then standard guerilla warfare could be used.
Now say your being attacked by a group and you have defenders setup repealing the attack this stratagy of stealth attacks that is used in guerilla tactics could be used in defence by circuling the group using bows and silent weapons to attack from behind or if they are scattered out enough use knifes from behind.
But all this would depend on just how good you are at silent and stealthy movement.
The key is stealth.
The main problem is if you have been trained in guerilla tactics or not. I went thruogh training during the Vietnam conflict so I was trained. But it is not easy and a person that just reads about it will not be any good at it because it takes knowledge that comes only from having done it and practiced at it.
(WoodStock thumps chest, grunts)
Dreaded, I was what happened when my dad returned from Vietnam.
Unfortunately, I chose to party instead of joining up with the armed forces
and developing discipline and some skills sooner.
I regret that now, but at 50 I have a good career and family, so it’s ok.
At my last job, one guy called me the Pretender, because I could look up
service information on many things truck-wise and do it the first time. I
suppose having seen the TV series would have helped me get the
reference. I wouldn’t expect similar results with a book on guerilla warfare,
but it’s on my list of literary genres to explore, when I get a Round Tuit.
? agreed.
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